Israel-Hezbolla; Lebanon stuck in the middle: The new Middle East Crisis (14 Viewers)

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- vOnAm -

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Vinman said:
Iran is to blame for ordering Hezbollah to attack the Israeli's, so that they can deflect the attention from themselves and their nuclear ambitions, to this utter mess in the region

way to go Iran !!!:rolleyes2
wow, aren't you the know it all guy....your accusations are strong, lets hope its more than just logical theories....


Why did Israel hav to go beserk? Let me ask you that? Because they value the two captured soldiers? Yet they willingly sent more troops to recover them and ultimately losing 7 more lives?
This looks like mere ego and reason to retaliate out of proportion than actually valuing the troop's lives.
 

Tourinorum

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- vOnAm - said:
wow, aren't you the know it all guy....your accusations are strong, lets hope its more than just logical theories....


Why did Israel hav to go beserk? Let me ask you that? Because they value the two captured soldiers? Yet they willingly sent more troops to recover them and ultimately losing 7 more lives?
This looks like mere ego and reason to retaliate out of proportion than actually valuing the troop's lives.

It's a code of the army to NEVER let anyone stay behind. You won't get it since you live a sheltered life.
Just imagine being captures and tortured, its hell for them, and from the government's point of view the soldiers might tell stuff.
Besides, it's vital to show your strength to prevent these stuff in the future.
 

Cronios

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Yes you can/must go and get him,i respect that, but you dont have to bomb another country positioned in the other side of the map to get them...
 

- vOnAm -

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Bianconeri9 said:
It's a code of the army to NEVER let anyone stay behind. You won't get it since you live a sheltered life.
Just imagine being captures and tortured, its hell for them, and from the government's point of view the soldiers might tell stuff.
Besides, it's vital to show your strength to prevent these stuff in the future.
Are you living a life less sheltered than me that u understand? I know about the leave no one behind thing, and that torture is worse than death...but this degree of reaction??

It Is vital to show your strenght, its a definate war tactic.

Well then what about the hundreds of palestinian prisoners? Why not a trade then? Why with the beserker mode rampage?

I thought it was ok to exchange prisoners in war? We're not exactly dealing with terrorist vs. heros here....it doesn't count as negotiation with terorist by my books...
 

mnementh

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Politics and Juventus should not be mixed. That's why I don't talk about these issues here because I think we're all Juve fans, and so I urge this thread to close.

Hizballah started all this , and there's only one blame here. It's called Hizballah-Hamas-Iran-Syria terror regime. If that ends, everything will be fine. Israeli and Lebanon citizens should live in peace. If it wasn't for the terrorists.
 

mnementh

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ReBeL said:
I just wanted to show everybody that you have no right to live in that place you're living in now...
Where do you think the ancestors of the "palestinians" come from ? they come from saudi arabia. Everyone are immigrants at some point or another. Everyone. Every country. Everyone started from the African continent at some point. Anyway, many Israelis are already close to 10 generations. There were always Jews in Israel, for thousands of years.
 

Tourinorum

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- vOnAm - said:
Are you living a life less sheltered than me that u understand? I know about the leave no one behind thing, and that torture is worse than death...but this degree of reaction??

It Is vital to show your strenght, its a definate war tactic.

Well then what about the hundreds of palestinian prisoners? Why not a trade then? Why with the beserker mode rampage?

I thought it was ok to exchange prisoners in war? We're not exactly dealing with terrorist vs. heros here....it doesn't count as negotiation with terorist by my books...

The thing is, Palestine is asking for HUNDREDS of prisoners to be released in exchange for ONE OR TWO soldiers. Let's be honest, that's like trading Buffon for Chimenti and then paying some.
 
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One interesting thing

I had a best army buddy back in the middle 90' when we were sent to action as sniper support to eliberate the citiy of Knin from occupation. As well as many young guns back there. A year ago he got an very interesting offer to go to Iraq to sharpshoot for one side...thanks god,he got back rich and in one piece. Yesterday he phoned me and proposed ME a job in Lebanon. Thanks god....I have a good financial status and no need for more war adventures. Here,many war war veterans have a poor life after war and go for money in what we call "bananna countries"....those who fought in bosnia against muslims and mudjahedins have a good reputation in US Army cuz of their expirience,and are well payed. Others,pharadoxly often end up on the other side......so I heard storys that 2 buddys(/croats from bosnia) met face to face in Iraq.... what a strange and sick world that is.
 
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    BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israeli warplanes punished the Lebanese capital on Friday, blasting the airport for a second day, knocking down a bridge, igniting fuel storage tanks and cutting the main highway to Syria. Hezbollah fired more rockets at Israeli towns across the border. Police said three people were killed and 55 wounded in the airstrikes, raising the death toll to 60 on the third day of fighting.
     
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    barkuss said:
    One interesting thing

    I had a best army buddy back in the middle 90' when we were sent to action as sniper support to eliberate the citiy of Knin from occupation. As well as many young guns back there. A year ago he got an very interesting offer to go to Iraq to sharpshoot for one side...thanks god,he got back rich and in one piece. Yesterday he phoned me and proposed ME a job in Lebanon. Thanks god....I have a good financial status and no need for more war adventures. Here,many war war veterans have a poor life after war and go for money in what we call "bananna countries"....those who fought in bosnia against muslims and mudjahedins have a good reputation in US Army cuz of their expirience,and are well payed. Others,pharadoxly often end up on the other side......so I heard storys that 2 buddys(/croats from bosnia) met face to face in Iraq.... what a strange and sick world that is.
    That's just fucked up man
     

    JCK

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    Fuck it!!

    Everytime it is the same old story over and over again. Lebanon went into 15 years of civil wars just because of a maniac called Yaser "my mouth is too big" Arafat who decided all by himself without consulting anyone to start a war agasint Israel from a land that took him as a refugee.

    Now we have a moron in the shape of Hasan Nasralla backed by Syria and Iran. Since 15 years ago Lebanon's touristic wave started to boom back again and this year a record high of hotel bookings was recorded. Now what happened? Well thank you Mr. Nasralla.

    Who do I blame? I blame those sissies who call themselves politicians and leaders in my beloved land who don't have the balls to say a word, I haven't reached the point of taking action.

    After Hariri was assassinated, the whole country stood by itself to take the Syrians out and everyone hoped for a "new" regime. What happened? Nothing, the same old story but with different faces.

    I hate that, I really do, Lebanon is most of the time stuck in the middle suffering from other people's causes. GO TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE PLEASE.
     

    Orgut

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    Cronios said:
    And they really had to bomb the only international aeroport Lebanon has for that? (who's gonna pay that?)
    did they necesary have to block all ports too,
    bomb the bridges and kill innocent ppl?

    What will they do if those two soldiers were killed, nuke em?

    its not the act, but the escalation that hurts here...
    Don`t forget they bombed Haifa before...
    who is gonna pay for this?
     

    mnementh

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    Jeeks said:
    Fuck it!!

    Everytime it is the same old story over and over again. Lebanon went into 15 years of civil wars just because of a maniac called Yaser "my mouth is too big" Arafat who decided all by himself without consulting anyone to start a war agasint Israel from a land that took him as a refugee.

    Now we have a moron in the shape of Hasan Nasralla backed by Syria and Iran. Since 15 years ago Lebanon's touristic wave started to boom back again and this year a record high of hotel bookings was recorded. Now what happened? Well thank you Mr. Nasralla.

    Who do I blame? I blame those sissies who call themselves politicians and leaders in my beloved land who don't have the balls to say a word, I haven't reached the point of taking action.

    After Hariri was assassinated, the whole country stood by itself to take the Syrians out and everyone hoped for a "new" regime. What happened? Nothing, the same old story but with different faces.

    I hate that, I really do, Lebanon is most of the time stuck in the middle suffering from other people's causes. GO TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE PLEASE.
    :agree: very good post. The Lebanese people are suffering because of maniacs like nasrallah. It's just like Iraq with Saddam and Iran with Ahminijad (low flame at the moment). I really wish the Lebanese will do something and get rid of the these illegal militias, because seriously there's no quarrel between lebanese and Israeli people (nor between Iranian people and Israelis) and there shouldn't be any either.
     
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    barkuss said:
    Hunger doesn't ask........


    thats a poeples wise one form here.....
    I don't how I can stand killing someone and then live on with it. I just can't.
     
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