Is Dubai a Country? (1 Viewer)

[Fake Melo]

"Kissing in public is strictly illegal and can result in deportation."
"Stoning is a legal form of judicial punishment in the UAE. "
"Apostasy is a crime punishable by death in the UAE."
"Flogging is a legal punishment for criminal offences such as adultery, premarital sex and prostitution. "
"In all emirates, it is illegal for Muslim women to marry non-Muslims. In the UAE, a marriage union between a Muslim woman and non-Muslim man is punishable by law, since it is considered a form of "fornication"."

HUMAN RIGHTS? no, never heard about it

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Human rights violations are happening everywhere. From USA to Russia. It's not only a Dubai problem.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

it's only your subjective opinion, yet you pretend that you are voice of truth, i don't derail anything, stop following me for 24/7, get a life already

thanks

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Human rights violations are happening everywhere. From USA to Russia. It's not only a Dubai problem.

agree, but you don't have the same laws in the western world that priori, they are priori against human rights

 

[Fake Melo]

agree, but you don't have the same laws in the western world that priori, they are priori against human rights

Well in USA the government is allowed to spy on you so that's pretty fucked up and a violation of human rights under the patriot act.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Well in USA the government is allowed to spy on you so that's pretty fucked up and a violation of human rights under the patriot act.

Ofc, but i'd rather let them see my naked pics than see how government punishers (or even her relatives) will stone some girl on the street just because she had sex or kissed somebody on public

 

[Cheesio]

For once we agree. There is huge Moroccan community here. For a Moroccan to make fun of Belgium is just incomprehensible.

Wasn't mocking belguim, was mocking the fact you describe Dubai as a shithole while being from Belguim.

 

[Seven]

Well in USA the government is allowed to spy on you so that's pretty fucked up and a violation of human rights under the patriot act.

If you really study the matter things become distressing pretty fast. I think almost every European country violates human rights on a pretty massive scale as well. It tends to be more covert, but it's definitely there. What makes human rights violations in Dubai a bit different is that they are so extreme and mindboggling. In reality though a human rights violation is still a human rights violation.

 

[Cheesio]

Ofc, but i'd rather let them see my naked pics than see how government punishers (or even her relatives) will stone some girl on the street just because she had sex or kissed somebody on public

You are in my country as a tourist as an expact you should respect my rules, my traditions.....As will i do when i visit your country even i disagree with some of your rules, principles...
If you can't don't come or live in this country.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Here in the west it happens all the time that a girl is too drunk when she had sex and then accuses the guy of rape. The guy is buttfucked even without evidence.

That's actually not true. It is impossible to prove the rape, without any visible wounds on the women. Not many are convicted, if you compare it with number of reports.

 

[Fake Melo]

If you really study the matter things become distressing pretty fast. I think almost every European country violates human rights on a pretty massive scale as well. It tends to be more covert, but it's definitely there. What makes human rights violations in Dubai a bit different is that they are so extreme and mindboggling. In reality though a human rights violation is still a human rights violation.

It's always funny when the US and UN/NATO try to bring up human right violations in countries like Russia and North Korea while having a blind eye on what they are doing themselves. The torture of Guantanamo Bay prisoners etc is swept under the rug. Same goes for countries like Sweden who threatened to end the diplomatic connections with Saudi Arabia because of HRV yet don't miss a chance to give uncle Sam a rimjob whenever it's needed. All countries should be held to the same standards.

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You are in my country as a tourist as an expact you should respect my rules, my traditions.....As will i do when i visit your country even i disagree with some of your rules, principles...
If you can't don't come or live in this country.

That's the issues with many immigrants coming to the west. They think they are still back in their old countries and don't care about the culture/tradition of the western nations. It goes both ways.

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That's actually not true. It is impossible to prove the rape, without any visible wounds on the women. Not many are convicted, if you compare it with number of reports.

Heard a story from friends about a guy who was accused of this in the US, both were drunk and the girl's parents were stacked with cash. Poor guy's life is ruined now because the expensive lawyers argued that visible wounds are not what determine if a rape has happened or not.

 

[Cheesio]

That's the issues with many immigrants coming to the west. They think they are still back in their old countries and don't care about the culture/tradition of the western nations. It goes both ways.

This i agree with, the first problem with immigrants is integration, if they can't accept the way of life of their receptive country they have no right to try to change it.

 

[swag]

My thoughts? Both.


In debating this topic I suggest we use the criteria for statehood that have been set out by the Montevideo Convention of 1933 as this is the most cited definition of statehood. As is well known the Montevideo Convention sets out four criteria for a state:

(a) a permanent population;
(b) a defined territory;
(c) government; and
(d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.

The discussion will thus revolve around these four criteria and whether or not they are met by Dubai.

I'd say it's a collection of familial and financial interests running as a for-profit entity with political borders within the UAE. So my answer is (e).

 

[Seven]

I'd say it's a collection of familial and financial interests running as a for-profit entity with political borders within the UAE. So my answer is (e).

That makes me sad.

 

[swag]

You definitely need to take these things less seriously.

 

[Seven]

You definitely need to take these things less seriously.

Like I've said a couple of times: for me this issue was dead in 2008.

 

[Enron]

It's dead today as well.

 

[swag]

It's dead today as well.

Thank you. I should have done that. But I was worried about making Andries sad.