Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (53 Viewers)

[JuveJay]

The new generation of ISIS! Will definitely be wilder and sicker..

I think the one top right was playing up front for Verona last night.

 

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[Osman]

Nico Lopez, he is very lively and talented kid.

 

[Snoop]

ISIS TV!! On internet!! Official TV



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Last pic of Abou Majd! Before he blew himself up on a banana farm, after watching porno movie of bananas violating women's purity

 

[swag]

I just learned ISIS has a "Research and Fatwa Department"

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

From tonight's State of the Union address:

"In Iraq and Syria, American leadership — including our military power — is stopping ISIL’s advance. Instead of getting dragged into another ground war in the Middle East, we are leading a broad coalition, including Arab nations, to degrade and ultimately destroy this terrorist group. We’re also supporting a moderate opposition in Syria that can help us in this effort, and assisting people everywhere who stand up to the bankrupt ideology of violent extremism. This effort will take time. It will require focus. But we will succeed. And tonight, I call on this Congress to show the world that we are united in this mission by passing a resolution to authorize the use of force against ISIL."

 

[swag]

Like we aren't already using force??

 

[Enron]

From tonight's State of the Union address:

"In Iraq and Syria, American leadership — including our military power — is stopping ISIL’s advance. Instead of getting dragged into another ground war in the Middle East, we are leading a broad coalition, including Arab nations, to degrade and ultimately destroy this terrorist group. We’re also supporting a moderate opposition in Syria that can help us in this effort, and assisting people everywhere who stand up to the bankrupt ideology of violent extremism. This effort will take time. It will require focus. But we will succeed. And tonight, I call on this Congress to show the world that we are united in this mission by passing a resolution to authorize the use of force against ISIL."

This is why military service should be mandatory.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

@ReBeL isis out of kobani?

 

[Maddy]

@ReBeL isis out of kobani?

Better follow Chuck

https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer

 

[ReBeL]

@ReBeL isis out of kobani?

It seems yes. They lost the battle at Kobane in Syria and Diyala in Iraq in the last few days.
They seem frustrated, and are acting randomly. They just announced they appointed a new leader for a new region called Khorasan under their rule tonight.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

It seems yes. They lost the battle at Kobane in Syria and Diyala in Iraq in the last few days.
They seem frustrated, and are acting randomly. They just announced they appointed a new leader for a new region called Khorasan under their rule tonight.

:xfinger: hope they all get buried there

 

[ReBeL]

:xfinger: hope they all get buried there

The Shia fighters are making revenge from civilians in Diyala, by the way...
That is why IS will not be defeated as an idea, IMO. People are not given another option there. Being a Sunni is enough reason to be humiliated and killed whether you are a fan of IS or not.

 

[king Ale]

The Shia fighters are making revenge from civilians in Diyala, by the way...
That is why IS will not be defeated as an idea, IMO. People are not given another option there. Being a Sunni is enough reason to be humiliated and killed whether you are a fan of IS or not.

This is so sad Abed I don't know where to start from. This is however the core of the so many reasons why I have always taken you as an ISIS sympathizer. Humiliation and murder of Sunnis by Shias (which is in and of itself a very biased and far from reality view) are in your opinion why people do not have any other option except for falling to the lowest of lows a human being can possibly fall to, committing the most horrendous crimes against innocent people of all races and religions.

 

[Hust]

This is so sad Abed I don't know where to start from. This is however the core of the so many reasons why I have always taken you as an ISIS sympathizer. Humiliation and murder of Sunnis by Shias (which is in and of itself a very biased and far from reality view) are in your opinion why people do not have any other option except for falling to the lowest of lows a human being can possibly fall to, committing the most horrendous crimes against innocent people of all races and religions.

 

[ReBeL]

This is so sad Abed I don't know where to start from. This is however the core of the so many reasons why I have always taken you as an ISIS sympathizer. Humiliation and murder of Sunnis by Shias (which is in and of itself a very biased and far from reality view) are in your opinion why people do not have any other option except for falling to the lowest of lows a human being can possibly fall to, committing the most horrendous crimes against innocent people of all races and religions.

That is what your media tells you. Do not fall for it.

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You can read the story here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/26/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-fighting-idUSKBN0KZ26R20150126

You make it as if I'm creating such a story out of nothing.

 

[king Ale]

No my "objective" opinion is only based on your record here.

In case you are referring to what I have put in parentheses, 1) I'm not buying the bullshit Iran's media have been trying to sell for the past decades, 2) I, unlike you and other extremists of both Sunni and Shia sides, cannot care less about Shia-Sunni despicable idiotic hostility, am not religious in the slightest and am only concerned about a region that I'm strongly attached to and can only hope for the day its people free themselves from foreign looters, domestic dictatorship and individual ignorance, and 3) It was only a side note to the main point I was trying to make that is: nothing, absolutely nothing, can even try to understand (let alone justify) the atrocities of isis and the likes whose victims are first and foremost innocent muslims whose voices will be heard only when their countries are of strategic importance for big powers of west and east.

 

[ReBeL]

You think you are objective but indeed you are not.

You make IS acts look like the most horrible crimes that had been conducted in the history while you intentionally ignore the acts by Shia militias, and you claim after that I'm an IS sympathizer while you are an objective person!

You said above:

Humiliation and murder of Sunnis by Shias (which is in and of itself a very biased and far from reality view)

How did you know it is far from reality? Is it because of your Shia roots? I posted for you a link from Reuters mentioning that members of Iraqi parliament said that Shia militias have killed those civilians, but you choose to ignore all of that because "it is far from reality view". Sorry, Hoori, but if you think you're objective about this issue, then you are wrong. You defend militias just because of your original sect, and your hatred for IS is just because of that. Don't try to hide behind the "humanitarian" mask to mention the acts of IS while closing your eyes when the crimes of Shias are mentioned, and even denying them without looking at the credibility of sources confirming them.

 

[Fred]

This is so sad Abed I don't know where to start from. This is however the core of the so many reasons why I have always taken you as an ISIS sympathizer. Humiliation and murder of Sunnis by Shias (which is in and of itself a very biased and far from reality view) are in your opinion why people do not have any other option except for falling to the lowest of lows a human being can possibly fall to, committing the most horrendous crimes against innocent people of all races and religions.

I'm not an ISIS sympathiser whatsoever, and I sincerely hope they are obliterated, they are nothing but a cancer, and one of the biggest dangers we have in the region if not the biggest is those radical groups. I would honestly much prefer our dictators than be ruled by the likes of those groups, and you know how much I hate the Geddaffi's, Bashar's and Mubarak's of this world.

That being said; you cannot deny the reality of the sectarian tensions in Iraq. Do you know that several sunni Iraqi tribes fought alongside ISIS in the start of this war? At the time I personally thought it was a mistake, because in Libya for example we allowed them to be a part of the revolution and now they're one of the biggest reasons Libya is being destroyed, but from their perspective at the time, they felt extremely persecuted by the Maliki regime and the Shia militia's controlling the country at the time. So to deny the reality of the sectarian tensions in Iraq is dangerous imo, because if you don't acknowledge the problem, you'd never understand why and how ISIS got to where they are right now in the first place.

 

[Azzurri7]

That being said; you cannot deny the reality of the sectarian tensions in Iraq. Do you know that several sunni Iraqi tribes fought alongside ISIS in the start of this war? At the time I personally thought it was a mistake, because in Libya for example we allowed them to be a part of the revolution and now they're one of the biggest reasons Libya is being destroyed, but from their perspective at the time, they felt extremely persecuted by the Maliki regime and the Shia militia's controlling the country at the time. So to deny the reality of the sectarian tensions in Iraq is dangerous imo, because if you don't acknowledge the problem, you'd never understand why and how ISIS got to where they are right now in the first place.

The sad thing is that many Shi'aa in Iraq acknowledge that nothing went right under Maliki's regime and many stood against him which is even more sad because many of those innocents paid the price because they are Shi'aa.


Abed, I don't want to sound like I am defending my Shi'aa roots because you already know what I think of Hezbollah but I haven't seen you condemn (Or maybe I missed it) the Sunni militia groups when they have killed Shi'aa over the years. Crimes/massacre now are everywhere I agree with you, one is proudly filmed and recorded while other is being done under the table but lets be fair and recognize that one is killing and defending on what they think behalf of Sett Zainab shrines and others are doing it under Prophet Mohammad slogans.

I come from very Shi'aat minded place, the mentality is close to the Iraqi's Sadr and Iranian mentality, these radicals you know see them have always supported the Sunni's of Palestine and you know that very well (Hezbollah's ideology has always been to free Palestine since day one when the party was first formed which was under Khomeini). Whereas on the other side the radical Sunni's (not as many as today obviously) always had the ideology of persecuting Shi'aa but not as bloody as today.

I am not taking sides here, but in-case what you are reporting is true then it doesn't shock me.

 

[ReBeL]

The sad thing is that many Shi'aa in Iraq acknowledge that nothing went right under Maliki's regime and many stood against him which is even more sad because many of those innocents paid the price because they are Shi'aa.


Abed, I don't want to sound like I am defending my Shi'aa roots because you already know what I think of Hezbollah but I haven't seen you condemn (Or maybe I missed it) the Sunni militia groups when they have killed Shi'aa over the years. Crimes/massacre now are everywhere I agree with you, one is proudly filmed and recorded while other is being done under the table but lets be fair and recognize that one is killing and defending on what they think behalf of Sett Zainab shrines and others are doing it under Prophet Mohammad slogans.

I come from very Shi'aat minded place, the mentality is close to the Iraqi's Sadr and Iranian mentality, these radicals you know see them have always supported the Sunni's of Palestine and you know that very well (Hezbollah's ideology has always been to free Palestine since day one when the party was first formed which was under Khomeini). Whereas on the other side the radical Sunni's (not as many as today obviously) always had the ideology of persecuting Shi'aa but not as bloody as today.

I am not taking sides here, but in-case what you are reporting is true then it doesn't shock me.

Just to confirm, Rab, I condemn any attack by Any Sunni on any civilian in the World. We all have the right to live in peace, regardless of our religions, beliefs, political ideology, etc,...