Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (24 Viewers)

Is Iraq better now?

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Tevez10

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2013
927
if i were iraqi id do the same thing to a saudi sniper thats looking for jihad in my backyard.
yeah, just be clear what kind of Iraqi, shia IRaqi or Sunni iraqi? Sunni solidiers are not fighting with Iraqi soldiers, they had quit. It's not that simple.

There's no need to "say it" - it's quite obvious.


How come they are the same?
All sides have committed a lot of crimes. Don't forget Abu Ghraib (prison), Fallujah (by US army), killing of civilians by Asaad, suicide bombers from YPG, peshmegra killing sunni civilians, also IS we who actually went public did not hide. So saying one is good and the other is bad, it's wrong.
 

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GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,797
yeah, just be clear what kind of Iraqi, shia IRaqi or Sunni iraqi? Sunni solidiers are not fighting with Iraqi soldiers, they had quit. It's not that simple.

All sides have committed a lot of crimes. Don't forget Abu Ghraib (prison), Fallujah (by US army), killing of civilians by Asaad, suicide bombers from YPG, peshmegra killing sunni civilians, also IS we who actually went public did not hide. So saying one is good and the other is bad, it's wrong.

so you are just going to ignore the saudi sniper part? id love to see you show restraint and understanding when you have one of those in your neighborhood.

Also IS is far worse for the simple reason that it's using religion, pretends to speak for God, and controls every aspect of the private life of the people living under it. They are the new age khmer rouge.
 

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Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
75,661
so you are just going to ignore the saudi sniper part? id love to see you show restraint and understanding when you have one of those in your neighborhood.

Also IS is far worse for the simple reason that it's using religion, pretends to speak for God, and controls every aspect of the private life of the people living under it. They are the new age khmer rouge.
In that case they've got about what, 18 months before the peter out?
 

Tevez10

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2013
927
so you are just going to ignore the saudi sniper part? id love to see you show restraint and understanding when you have one of those in your neighborhood.

Also IS is far worse for the simple reason that it's using religion, pretends to speak for God, and controls every aspect of the private life of the people living under it. They are the new age khmer rouge.
Part one, how about US army with sniper and bombs? They have nothing to do in Iraq, so what gives them right to go there? So US army can go there and kill civilians and it's not a big deal when a Saudi sniper goes there it's a big deal. So your point is invalid.

Part two, same thing you have in saudi where they use religion and speak for God and control every aspect of life, but it's alright in Saudi, but when IS does it it's wrong. I'm not saying that u support US army, neither agree with the system in Saudi Arabia, just the hypocrisy from the mainstream media.

They call PKK and YPG heroes, YPG and PKK are same shit, just PKK and YPG are not threat to US right now, but u never know!
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,797
Part one, how about US army with sniper and bombs? They have nothing to do in Iraq, so what gives them right to go there? So US army can go there and kill civilians and it's not a big deal when a Saudi sniper goes there it's a big deal. So your point is invalid.

Part two, same thing you have in saudi where they use religion and speak for God and control every aspect of life, but it's alright in Saudi, but when IS does it it's wrong. I'm not saying that u support US army, neither agree with the system in Saudi Arabia, just the hypocrisy from the mainstream media.

They call PKK and YPG heroes, YPG and PKK are same shit, just PKK and YPG are not threat to US right now, but u never know!
1- Nothing, IS has just much legitimacy as the US did, so they are being ostracized just the same. The glaring detail that is escaping you here is that the US army is not in Iraq right now. So please do us all a favor and stop evading the questions with outlandish and anachronistic comparisons.

2- IS is a direct product of saudi ideology and was heavily financed initially by them and qatar. If the saudis choose to live that way so be it, their land, their rules. Wannabe rappers from bristol and frustrated saudi teens have no right to go anywhere and tell people how to live.

3- again please stop with "they", "the media", the illuminati... debate our points and posts.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Can't compare US to IS in their escapades. One is beheading and killing their own people of the same faith and recruiting children to be martyrs.


The other didn't.

:snoop:
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Can't compare US to IS in their escapades. One is beheading and killing their own people of the same faith and recruiting children to be martyrs.


The other didn't.

:snoop:
I think you're the most innocently ignorant person here on this forum, whether it's politics or football, doesn't matter :D
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,797
US recruited their teenagers of the same faith to kill and be killed so that cheney, wolfwotiz and their buddies can make a quick buck and impress their war hawk zionist friends. But thankfully IS will not come even close to the amount of destruction wreaked by the US, not coz they are more ethical, rather not as efficient in killing for lack of sophisticated machinery.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
US recruited their teenagers of the same faith to kill and be killed so that cheney, wolfwotiz and their buddies can make a quick buck and impress their war hawk zionist friends. But thankfully IS will not come even close to the amount of destruction wreaked by the US, not coz they are more ethical, rather not as efficient in killing for lack of sophisticated machinery.
Well, to your point both are technically a volunteer war machine. :touched:
 

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