Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (37 Viewers)

[Hust]

Economics is common sense, come on.

haaaaaaa.

Tell the Reserve that.

 

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[Turk_Bianconero]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2768554/State-Department-tweets-photos-four-dead-ISIS-jihadis-battle-hearts-minds-ratchets-UN-Security-Council-wins-pledge-prosecute-foreign-fighters.html

Using term of Jihadis as something evil is incredibly offensive, don't ask why Muslims hate west when they keep using this language. Every Muslim is a Jihadi and Jihad does not mean killing every single non-muslim you see as they want you to believe. Jihad is doing what Allah asks and not doing what Allah forbids. Their way of using word of 'Jihadis' is a reflection of what they hide in their mind. It's not about isis or pisis, they want to exterminate the Muslims.

These are some hadith about Jihad

The mujahid is he who makes jihad against his nafs (ego) for the sake of obeying Allah.
Ibn Hibban (#1624, 2519)

On another occasion, a man asked: "Should I join the jihad?" The Prophet asked, upon him peace, "Do you have parents?" The man said yes. The Prophet said: "Then do jihad by serving them!" (Sahih Al-Bukhari #5972)

Another man asked: "What kind of jihad is better?" The Prophet replied, upon him peace: "A word of truth spoken in front of an oppressive ruler." (Sunan Al-Nasa'i #4209)

The Prophet also said, upon him peace: The strong one is not the one who overcomes people, the strong one is he who overcomes his nafs [ego]. Al-Haythami declared it authentic in Majma` al-Zawa'id.

 

[ZoSo]

Their way of using word of 'Jihadis' is a reflection of what they hide in their mind. It's not about isis or pisis, they want to exterminate the Muslims.

Yes it's all a big conspiracy we all want all muslims dead

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Yes it's all a big conspiracy we all want all muslims dead

Maybe not you but your government certainly want them dead. Not all of them though, they need slaves. Those who oppose must die.

@Hustini
This is how you do it.

Spoiler

 

[Eddy]

Turk, do you have any solutions to dealing with ISIS without bloodshed involved ? What do you think the west should have done ?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Turk, do you have any solutions to dealing with ISIS without bloodshed involved ? What do you think the west should have done ?

Not anymore but it could have been prevented. Ideal scenario would be western countries get the fuck out of the region and let people settle this issue themselves but as i said, they are afraid of Muslims coming to power and losing control on their colonies.

This is also one of their ways of population control. Sometimes it is ebola manufactured in the lab like in Africa, sometimes it is making people of the region kill each other like in Middle East. Uncivilized races are breeding fast. Cave dwellers and sand niggaz must be kept in check.

 

[Maddy]

Asking the general public to know how global finance and economics works is a long shot, Andy. Gotta start with the .edu system

Economics is common sense, come on.

if it aint the experds on economics

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y is it that russia a known supporter of assad and his warcrimes against civilians in syria is never hated on by rebel and turk.

its always murica and the west, despite the fact that russia is as much to blame for shit going on in syria.

i havent seen alot mentioning of following reasons to why the conflict is looking the way it is: the fear of another rwanda, the war tired american and european public, russias support of assad, the scars of iraq, the fact that isis have grown to a size where they are a threat to the 'west', that it makes no political sense to try and remove assad, that there are millions upon millions of people in the region begging for 'someone' to interfere in the war, that the west is in no way what so ever interested in millions of refugee on their way to europe (murica).

wat i read is alot of conspiracy about how muricans and especially zionist are behind all of this.

the greatest thing is when laymen talk about there being a economic reasoning behind. there isn't. the natural ressources of the middle east are still on fairly 'secure' hands and the turmoil in syria and iraq have a very little impact on the global economy.

the lack of pragmatic thinking in this thread is incredible. internet-intellectuals ftw

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

I never claimed to be an intellectual, i tell what's in my mind, rest of it up to you. Russian supporting Assad is obvious, it's been mentioned here several times. It's US and their minions bombing Syrian opposition, that's why they are to blamed atm.

It's true that resources are secured at this moment but what if people manage to get rid of puppets Maliki and Assad, erase the borders drawn by Europeans and decide to join Türkiye to form up a single Islamic State?

 

[Raz]

Their way of using word of 'Jihadis' is a reflection of what they hide in their mind. It's not about isis or pisis, they want to exterminate the Muslims.[/B]

So fucking delusional lost within your own theories that it's not even funny anymore.

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Maybe not you but your government certainly want them dead. Not all of them though, they need slaves. Those who oppose must die.

@Hustini
This is how you do it.

Spoiler

We have africa for that.

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Not anymore but it could have been prevented. Ideal scenario would be western countries get the fuck out of the region and let people settle this issue themselves but as i said, they are afraid of Muslims coming to power and losing control on their colonies.

This is also one of their ways of population control. Sometimes it is ebola manufactured in the lab like in Africa, sometimes it is making people of the region kill each other like in Middle East. Uncivilized races are breeding fast. Cave dwellers and sand niggaz must be kept in check.

This is true and would have been best, and what's more surprisingly you are right about them not wanting to lose power, but the thing is I doubt they care at all about the religion aspect.

Oh shit, just read the second part of your post

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

I never claimed to be an intellectual, i tell what's in my mind, rest of it up to you. Russian supporting Assad is obvious, it's been mentioned here several times. It's US and their minions bombing Syrian opposition, that's why they are to blamed atm.

It's true that resources are secured at this moment but what if people manage to get rid of puppets Maliki and Assad, erase the borders drawn by Europeans and decide to join Türkiye to form up a single Islamic State?

What? I thought America was originally helping the rebels against Assad?

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Ebola manufactured in a lab

Forza Turk

 

[Raz]

They tested it few times already but it didn't pick up, now it seems finally it might be worth all that man hours invested.

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Turk, you should watch Utopia, very good documentary.

 

[JuveJay]

Yes it's all a big conspiracy we all want all muslims dead

Confirmed.

 

[Raz]

 

[ZoSo]

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

 

[Nzoric]

Turk, you should watch Utopia, very good documentary.

 

[Eddy]

It's US and their minions bombing Syrian opposition, that's why they are to blamed atm.

Ehh, Syrian opposition is still there and getting funded, they however lack organisation and leadership.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

What? I thought America was originally helping the rebels against Assad?

The moment they realized it's the 'radicals' who will win the election, like in Egypt, they have decided it's better with Assad.

 

[Bjerknes]

The moment they realized it's the 'radicals' who will win the election, like in Egypt, they have decided it's better with Assad.

Incorrect, here's what is going on.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/deal...rstrikes-1411605329?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...et-deal-saudi-arabia-unleashed-syrian-bombing

When Mr. Kerry touched down in Jeddah to meet with King Abdullah on Sept. 11, he didn't know for sure what else the Saudis were prepared to do. The Saudis had informed their American counterparts before the visit that they would be ready to commit air power—but only if they were convinced the Americans were serious about a sustained effort in Syria. The Saudis, for their part, weren't sure how far Mr. Obama would be willing to go, according to diplomats.

Wary of a repeat of Mr. Obama's earlier reversal, the Saudis and United Arab Emirates decided on a strategy aimed at making it harder for Mr. Obama to change course. "Whatever they ask for, you say 'yes,'" an adviser to the Gulf bloc said of its strategy. "The goal was not to give them any reason to slow down or back out."

Arab participation in the strikes is of more symbolic than military value. The Americans have taken the lead and have dropped far more bombs than their Arab counterparts. But the show of support from a major Sunni state for a campaign against a Sunni militant group, U.S. officials said, made Mr. Obama comfortable with authorizing a campaign he had previously resisted.

For the Saudis, Syria had become a critical frontline in the battle for regional influence with Iran, an Assad ally. As Mr. Assad stepped up his domestic crackdown, the king decided to do whatever was needed to bring the Syrian leader down, Arab diplomats say.

In the last week of August, a U.S. military and State Department delegation flew to Riyadh to lay the ground for a military program to train the moderate Syrian opposition to fight both the Assad regime and Islamic State—something the Saudis have long requested. The U.S. team wanted permission to use Saudi facilities for the training. Top Saudi ministers, after consulting overnight with the king, agreed and offered to foot much of the bill. Mr. Jubeir went to Capitol Hill to pressed key lawmakers to approve legislation authorizing the training.

For the Saudis, Syria had become a critical frontline in the battle for regional influence with Iran, an Assad ally. As Mr. Assad stepped up his domestic crackdown, the king decided to do whatever was needed to bring the Syrian leader down, Arab diplomats say.

Saudi players in attendance for the Sept. 11 meeting included Prince Bandar bin Sultan, who as the king's spymaster last year ran afoul of Mr. Kerry over Syria and Iraq policy. U.S. officials interpreted his presence as a sign the king wanted to make sure the court was united, U.S. officials said.

As I predicted earlier in this thread, the ISIS bombing is simply a backwards way into Syria to eventually bomb the Assad regime. All they need to do now is send in a Saudi extremist group to gas some people, like they did a year ago, and then shoot down an American jet.

This WILL happen, bank on it. There's no other reason to be there.