Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (11 Viewers)

[AndreaCristiano]

not plausible at all, where would it be moved? how could it be moved without being spotted especially on the eve of an offensive? who in their right mind would accept it and give the US a reason to invade them too? the bush administration lied and even admitted it.

First off the bush administration didn't do anything. Intelligence was given to congress with our illustrious president then senator Obama, Madam Clinton, etc etc and they all agreed and gave the OK for the president after he went to the UN and got a resolution. Ya know the OK from the world after they also saw the same intelligence from the UK, US and European intelligence community. Yet revisionist history forgets all that. Yet I'm the indoctrinated one?!

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

First off the bush administration didn't do anything. Intelligence was given to congress with our illustrious president then senator Obama, Madam Clinton, etc etc and they all agreed and gave the OK for the president after he went to the UN and got a resolution. Ya know the OK from the world after they also saw the same intelligence from the UK, US and European intelligence community. Yet revisionist history forgets all that. Yet I'm the indoctrinated one?!

oh please youd have to be blind and dumb to not know cheney, wolfowitz and gang were itching to go after iraq just look up wolfwoitz doctrine, have you heard of tenet's book on the subject? he was almost pressured to come up with any kind of pseudo-evidence to fool the world into agreeing to the imminent threat theory, and FYI UN did not sanction armed through resolution any invasion of iraq, STOP reading right wing propaganda.

 

[Trequartista]

 

[GordoDeCentral]

technically yes wolfowitz to be specific.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

oh please youd have to be blind and dumb to not know cheney, wolfowitz and gang were itching to go after iraq just look up wolfwoitz doctrine, have you heard of tenet's book on the subject? he was almost pressured to come up with any kind of pseudo-evidence to fool the world into agreeing to the imminent threat theory, and FYI UN did not sanction armed through resolution any invasion of iraq, STOP reading right wing propaganda.

If I'm reading right wing propaganda your reading leftist socialist propaganda. Your points of view on this issue are sometimes factual sometimes conspiracy theorist. The difference between you and I ? I am not saying it happened that way all I'm saying it's plausible. On both sides of the ideological spectrum there are untruths and somewhere in the middle they're is truth. You on the other hand stick to your talking points and if someone disagrees with you their propagandists or brain washed or indoctrinated. Typical leftist shout down opposing views until they are ignored or follow your point of view. Well me I will always look at both sides because the reality is the only people who know the truth is those in power and like I've said once and I'll say again republican and democrat are both the same. They play the opposite sides to keep people divided. Even in other countries. Opposing parties divide to conquer and you add to that. Ps for your information my favorite news station is Al Jazerra America

 

[Trequartista]

technically yes wolfowitz to be specific.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

technically yes wolfowitz to be specific.

Now that's funny

 

[GordoDeCentral]

If I'm reading right wing propaganda your reading leftist socialist propaganda. Your points of view on this issue are sometimes factual sometimes conspiracy theorist. The difference between you and I ? I am not saying it happened that way all I'm saying it's plausible. On both sides of the ideological spectrum there are untruths and somewhere in the middle they're is truth. You on the other hand stick to your talking points and if someone disagrees with you their propagandists or brain washed or indoctrinated. Typical leftist shout down opposing views until they are ignored or follow your point of view. Well me I will always look at both sides because the reality is the only people who know the truth is those in power and like I've said once and I'll say again republican and democrat are both the same. They play the opposite sides to keep people divided. Even in other countries. Opposing parties divide to conquer and you add to that. Ps for your information my favorite news station is Al Jazerra America

show me where i either tried to twist facts to fit into a specific "leftist socialist" narrative, or i have quoted what you would deem the same? i on the other showed convincingly and quite politely considering how obvious the offense was, that you tried to take a story and make it go along what you choose to believe. Thats text book indoctrination. I dont know where you were from 2001 to 2004 but every single day following 9/11 the bush administration attacked through the media what it called the axis of evil(laying out the ground it's called), and specifically Saddam despite the lack of any evidence linking him to the towers. Thats not conspiracy theory that is FACT. Just like with the tonkin gulf incident, the US govt fabricated a reason to invade a sovereign country unilaterally.

 

[Trequartista]

Speaking of sons of bitches like Cheney and Wolfowitz, Tony Blair is now a consultant for JP Morgan

 

[GordoDeCentral]

JPMC is evil, i'd know i worked for them

 

[Trequartista]

What a piece of shit

 

[GordoDeCentral]

that vid links to this, shout out to @Bjerknes @AndreaCristiano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjfd6pzUDmA#t=12

 

[Trequartista]

Max Keiser is the man.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

he kinda looks like lichsteiner doesnt he

 

[Trequartista]

A bit, but that accent

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[GordoDeCentral]

which accent? pretty standard american accent imo

 

[Trequartista]

which accent? pretty standard american accent imo

He almost sounds like a southerner sometimes, but I guess he does that on purpose.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Noob question, what is the actual rift between them?

What Asif said but originally I see it more as a political rift that was later disguised as ideological to garner more support because ironically the man the Shia believed to be the rightful successor to Prophet Muhammad didn't even complain himself and went on to be the 4th Caliph.

Today's Sunni-Shia conflict in the Middle East can be traced back to the British policy of instating minorities to rule over a majority. This assures a symbiotic relationship.

edit: Worth adding at this point that everything has a reason behind it...I find it insulting and ironic that someone supposedly so smart as Zach sits there and claims certain people are more evolved or culturally superior. It's only human nature that people react in certain ways if placed under similar conditions.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

that vid links to this, shout out to @Bjerknes @AndreaCristiano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjfd6pzUDmA#t=12

It's like I told you in PM's the banks, corporations and global governments are all the same thing they fein, separation and different ideologies to keep " A house divided" meanwhile behind the crumbling make up they are all colluding to keep us down while they raise a global empire. when i post shit on here that you take offense to (it seems) you automatically believe its exactly what I believe even when i put words that indicate that its only another option. In the end like I told you in PM both sides are liars, the truth is only known by a handful

 

[Bjerknes]

that vid links to this, shout out to @Bjerknes @AndreaCristiano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjfd6pzUDmA#t=12

Tony Blair, George Bush, Obongo... all terrorists who should have been indefinitely detained by NDAA.

A bit, but that accent

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