Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (30 Viewers)

[Turk_Bianconero]

Well, it is not the whole army.

 

Buy on AliExpress.com

[Raz]

you think turkey will give a picture detailing where and how many tanks they have

Nah, but turks answer is funny. Does that picture supposed to answer any questions?

 

[Maddy]

Nah, but turks answer is funny. Does that picture supposed to answer any questions?

Typical Turk post.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Typical Maddy fart.

Here it is, if you want details.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Turkey

 

[Tevez10]

Typical Maddy fart.

Here it is, if you want details.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Turkey

I asked how big is the army in Syria territory (Shah Sulaiman grave)!

 

[Juve_fanatic]

This is what USA's greed for money/oil brought to mankind. This is what their "fight for democracy" brought. Fucking scary shit is going on in the Middle East. And its starting to spread. God help us.

 

[swag]

I don't get how people are still fixated on the oil thing with the U.S. That was true five years ago, but no longer with domestic fracking. If we're going to point to motives, let's be sure they're up to date. The U.S. involvement is about a lot more than just oil these days.

 

[Trequartista]

I don't get how people are still fixated on the oil thing with the U.S. That was true five years ago, but no longer with domestic fracking. If we're going to point to motives, let's be sure they're up to date. The U.S. involvement is about a lot more than just oil these days.

It's the easy answer for people who know nothing about current affairs.

 

[Juve_fanatic]

I don't get how people are still fixated on the oil thing with the U.S. That was true five years ago, but no longer with domestic fracking. If we're going to point to motives, let's be sure they're up to date. The U.S. involvement is about a lot more than just oil these days.

It's what started this whole thing swag.

It's the easy answer for people who know nothing about current affairs.

Exactly. I dont need to know more than the fact that the whole western world (we) invaded the Middle East for our own greedy purposes masking it under "bringing democracy" and created these chains of events. It is us who are on their territory, we are the ones who invaded their homes for no reason at all in the first place and now the whole western world is like "I wonder what upset the Muslims? Why they be all Allah akbar?"

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

It's the easy answer for people who know nothing about current affairs.

Seems to be so.

 

[Bjerknes]

I don't get how people are still fixated on the oil thing with the U.S. That was true five years ago, but no longer with domestic fracking. If we're going to point to motives, let's be sure they're up to date. The U.S. involvement is about a lot more than just oil these days.

I think there are some natural gas pipeline dynamics in play, at least in Syria. They wanted to create that Iran-Iraq-Syria "Islamic" pipeline that would supply said nations and possibly some in Europe, but I don't think that the Saudis and Qataris liked the idea. Instead, they want to build their own pipeline through Saudi and then into Jordan. So the easy way to disrupt the $10 Billion investment in the Islamic pipeline is to create chaos in Syria, which is sort of referenced in the ZeroHedge article I posted a few pages back that highlights the Saudi deals with the Obama administration.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

I asked how big is the army in Syria territory (Shah Sulaiman grave)!

There is no army there, it's a small headquarter. But there is only 27km between border and Suleyman Shah.

 

[Tevez10]

There is no army there, it's a small headquarter. But there is only 27km between border and Suleyman Shah.

Turk do you think demonstrations in turkey will change Erdogan's mind in going with Army in the Civil war in Syria? There is a lot of pressure on Turkey now. But I understand, why would they ally with Asaad?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Turk do you think demonstrations in turkey will change Erdogan's mind in going with Army in the Civil war in Syria? There is a lot of pressure on Turkey now. But I understand, why would they ally with Asaad?

Davudoglu made it clear that we will deploy troops, only if Assad is the main target. There is another scenario; If ISIS commit crime against civilians in Ayn El Arab, we could intervene.

Demonstrations are literally pathetic. Almost whole civilian population of Kobane arrived in Turkiye. Mind you this is not a rich country, 1.5 million refugees don't help the situation. Yet these ungrafetul monkeys are burning schools and buses, trying to make life difficult for the people who are feeding the refugees from their own pockets. No other country in the world would tolerate them this much.

 

[ReBeL]

It's what started this whole thing swag.


Exactly. I dont need to know more than the fact that the whole western world (we) invaded the Middle East for our own greedy purposes masking it under "bringing democracy" and created these chains of events. It is us who are on their territory, we are the ones who invaded their homes for no reason at all in the first place and now the whole western world is like "I wonder what upset the Muslims? Why they be all Allah akbar?"

Davudoglu made it clear that we will deploy troops, only if Assad is the main target. There is another scenario; If ISIS commit crime against civilians in Ayn El Arab, we could intervene.

Demonstrations are literally pathetic. Almost whole civilian population of Kobane arrived in Turkiye. Mind you this is not a rich country, 1.5 million refugees don't help the situation. Yet these ungrafetul monkeys are burning schools and buses, trying to make life difficult for the people who are feeding the refugees from their own pockets. No other country in the world would tolerate them this much.

Indeed. Turkey provided them with a great shelter after they always were fighting it all the time. Kurds always allied with wrong people. During the Syrian revolution, they thought revolution will be successful, so they showed themselves as the people who are in solidarity with the revolution. When they saw later that Assad regime was supported by many powers, they decided to ally with Assad regime against rebels and thought that they could make a state all over the borders with Turkey. They even forced some Arab people in that region to leave their villages because they wanted to "clean" their area from "Bedouins" according to those who fled their houses. Then, IS appeared, and they again played the victim's role.

I loved when they burnt Ataturk's statue though

I think there are some natural gas pipeline dynamics in play, at least in Syria. They wanted to create that Iran-Iraq-Syria "Islamic" pipeline that would supply said nations and possibly some in Europe, but I don't think that the Saudis and Qataris liked the idea. Instead, they want to build their own pipeline through Saudi and then into Jordan. So the easy way to disrupt the $10 Billion investment in the Islamic pipeline is to create chaos in Syria, which is sort of referenced in the ZeroHedge article I posted a few pages back that highlights the Saudi deals with the Obama administration.

Interesting

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

It's not like ISIS are targeting Kurdish people anyway. There are Kurds among them as most of the Kurds are Sunni and religious people. Anti-Islamic organizations like pyd and pkk are being targeted and once again they are throwing lives of their followers into fire to save their own. They will have to wait another millennia for their marxist kurdistan. They bet on wrong horse for more than once and they will pay for it now.

 

[Tevez10]

It's not like ISIS are targeting Kurdish people anyway. There are Kurds among them as most of the Kurds are Sunni and religious people. Anti-Islamic organizations like pyd and pkk are being targeted and once again they are throwing lives of their followers into fire to save their own. They will have to wait another millennia for their marxist kurdistan. They bet on wrong horse for more than once and they will pay for it now.

What's the percentage of sunny, shia roughly of turkish kurds?

 

[ReBeL]

It's not like ISIS are targeting Kurdish people anyway. There are Kurds among them as most of the Kurds are Sunni and religious people. Anti-Islamic organizations like pyd and pkk are being targeted and once again they are throwing lives of their followers into fire to save their own. They will have to wait another millennia for their marxist kurdistan. They bet on wrong horse for more than once and they will pay for it now.

Of course. When I was referring to Kurds, I meant Kurd leaders, not the normal people

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

What's the percentage of sunny, shia roughly of turkish kurds?

Don't know the percentage but vast majority are Sunni. Then there are Alevis which i would not categorize as Shia.

 

[ReBeL]

Don't know the percentage but vast majority are Sunni. Then there are Alevis which i would not categorize as Shia.

Alevis are definitely not Shia. Shia consider themselves as Muslims. Alevis do not agree with other Muslims on the main rituals. They do not pray the same five prayers on a daily basis and they do not fast at Ramadan.