Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (15 Viewers)

Is Iraq better now?

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ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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What the shit does white have to do with it, Soren? So many Americans aren't white.

But the reason this is blowing up is because those ISIS retards sent out an execution video where they behead a journalist they were holding as POW for some reason.

I can't fathom how fucked up one has to be to rationalize or justify any of the shit ISIS is doing right now.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
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That is the most accurate sentence here in the last two pages. More than 1 million Iraqis are killed because of American greed for petrol. Nobody said a word. An American is killed. The whole world condemns that. Fuck off, silly world...
Here is the deal. The US waged a war. For good or worse its a war and it has casualties. I think the war was illegal, but still.
You wage war, and colleteral damage happened. Unlike Israel, the us wasent aiming at civilians.


This guy however, is a journalist who did nothing wrong, and got murdered by a specific deliberate command to do it.



If the US would have grabbed an iraqi citizen or journalist and beheaded him on national tv, even bigger outrage would break out in the entire world.



Big difference between the casualties of filthy warfare, and deliberatly murdering an innocent
 
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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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    Here is the deal. The US waged a war. For good or worse its a war and it has casualties. I think the war was illegal, but still.
    You wage war, and colleteral damage happened. Unlike Israel, the us wasent aiming at civilians.


    This guy however, is a journalist who did nothing wrong, and got murdered by a specific deliberate command to do it.



    If the US would have grabbed an iraqi citizen or journalist and beheaded him on national tv, even bigger outrage would break out in the entire world.



    Big difference between the casualties of filthy warfare, and deliberatly murdering an innocent
    Well, many assumptions you have there that are baseless...

    Saying USA was not there to kill civilians is really funny knowing how many civilians were killed in Falluja city alone. You can read about cancer in Falluja because of the weapons used there by the HOLY American forces...

    Second, you are saying that the beheaded man is an innocent journalist. Well, ISIS says he is an American soldier and they showed his military clothes. You can believe whatever you want, but do not assume something that can be baseless.

    I'm not justifying the killing of that man by the way, but it is very pathetic if we keep focusing on one incident and forget about tens of thousands of organized crime by the HOLY army of USA...
     

    Zacheryah

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    Aug 29, 2010
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    Well, many assumptions you have there that are baseless...

    Saying USA was not there to kill civilians is really funny knowing how many civilians were killed in Falluja city alone. You can read about cancer in Falluja because of the weapons used there by the HOLY American forces...

    Second, you are saying that the beheaded man is an innocent journalist. Well, ISIS says he is an American soldier and they showed his military clothes. You can believe whatever you want, but do not assume something that can be baseless.

    I'm not justifying the killing of that man by the way, but it is very pathetic if we keep focusing on one incident and forget about tens of thousands of organized crime by the HOLY army of USA...
    I was agaist the second gulf war. the victims, even those you mentionned, are casualties of war, colleteral damage.
    "ISIS says", i'm sorry i dont believe a single word of them. What the fuck is a soldier doing there, right now. I believe he was a journalist.


    Look, i'm against most recent wars america got involved in, but they arent deliberatly targetting civilians, they wouldnt last a day for the public opinion, they learned that the hard way in vietnam.

    Deliberatly killing a person, is different then killing a ton colleteral damage.


    I'll refer again to israel, who isnt giving a fuck what they hit, thats different. The US targets soldiers and installations, they dont launch rockets deliberartly at civilians just to hit civilians.

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    Yeah, let's believe what ISIS says.
    exactly
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
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    I was agaist the second gulf war. the victims, even those you mentionned, are casualties of war, colleteral damage.
    "ISIS says", i'm sorry i dont believe a single word of them. What the $#@! is a soldier doing there, right now. I believe he was a journalist.


    Look, i'm against most recent wars america got involved in, but they arent deliberatly targetting civilians, they wouldnt last a day for the public opinion, they learned that the hard way in vietnam.

    Deliberatly killing a person, is different then killing a ton colleteral damage.


    I'll refer again to israel, who isnt giving a $#@! what they hit, thats different. The US targets soldiers and installations, they dont launch rockets deliberartly at civilians just to hit civilians.

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    exactly
    It is up to you to believe that they target civilians or not. You can deny that SUN is coming from East everyday, but does that affect SUN?
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
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    Stop defending ISIS. get a $#@!ing grip
    I'm not defending anybody. I'm just telling all those who cry for a man that he is not the only one who was killed in Iraq. If you want to shed a tear over his body, be my guest, but do not make it as if he is the only one who was killed there...

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    Yeah, let's believe what ISIS says.
    Imagine you are from the Middle East, and try to give me one reason to believe what USA says...
     

    ALC

    Ohaulick
    Oct 28, 2010
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    Imagine you are from the Middle East, and try to give me one reason to believe what USA says...
    James Foley was abducted in 2012. The US occupation ended in 2011. There is no information linking him to being in the army. It would be public info if he had enlisted. And it's not as if he had been a soldier, anything would be different. You don't behead a prisoner of war!

    And the other reason: media in the US might not be the greatest but it's nowhere near as bad as the propaganda extremists groups like ISIS spew.
     

    GordoDeCentral

    Diez
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    Apr 14, 2005
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    he doesnt have to be in the army, and if hes in there as a contractor or CIA operative then public it will not be.

    Also the US should not give lessons to anyone about POWs the way they treated(tortured) people for the last 15 some years.
     

    Enron

    Tickle Me
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    Oct 11, 2005
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    he doesnt have to be in the army, and if hes in there as a contractor or CIA operative then public it will not be.

    Also the US should not give lessons to anyone about POWs the way they treated(tortured) people for the last 15 some years.
    He's a pretty good journalist for being a military contractor/CIA op.
     

    GordoDeCentral

    Diez
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    Apr 14, 2005
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    He's a pretty good journalist for being a military contractor/CIA op.
    who said men cant multitask.

    As gruesome as the act, i too find the indignation hypocritical this is Iraq we are talking about, where millions were killed /displaced for oil. If bush, cheney and cohorts are not tried for war crimes the american public has no right to call anybody else war criminals and especially not in iraq.
     

    ALC

    Ohaulick
    Oct 28, 2010
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    Just because wrong was done in the past, doesn't mean it justifies wrong done in the present and future. That's just like Israel saying "If Hitler killed so many Jews, then don't talk shit on us for killing Palestinians"
     

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