But to X's point, it looks like Daesh decided on their actual execution, not Jordan. That makes Jordan look reactionary and weak.
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Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (18 Viewers)
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I assumed so, and I do not want to make it sound as if those executions were in any way as abominable as the actions of IS (though I do in general not think much of arguing about the extent of the horribleness of a crime, this logic can lead to a lot of fucked up conclusions rather easily). However, the fact remains that the timing of the executions very strongly implies that they are thought of as actions of vengeance against the IS, whether that was the only intention behind the action or it was done to satisfy public outrage does not really matter here. The executions were at least in their timing the result of political reasoning, not jurisdictional, and that is in my opinion to be rejected.
Moreover, I think one could question if such executions really send the right signals anyways. Not even talking about their ascension to martyrdom, or acts of vengeance by the IS, I do believe that when combatting terrorist movements, it is important to maintain some sort of a "moral high ground", as naive as that may sound. Otherwise, recruition by those terrorist movements is facilitated massively.
Moreover, I think one could question if such executions really send the right signals anyways. Not even talking about their ascension to martyrdom, or acts of vengeance by the IS, I do believe that when combatting terrorist movements, it is important to maintain some sort of a "moral high ground", as naive as that may sound. Otherwise, recruition by those terrorist movements is facilitated massively.
A Turkish newspaper said today that Turkish authorities arrested for the first time a Turkish member in IS
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EU chides Jordan for hangings after pilot killed
(Reuters) - The European Union combined a statement of solidarity with Jordan over the killing of one of its military pilots by Islamist fighters with criticism of its immediate execution of two Iraqi jihadists.
"While all efforts must be made to counter terrorism and hold the perpetrators accountable, our reaction to the threat posed by (Islamic State) needs to be consistent with our common values on justice and the rights of prisoners," foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said in a statement on Wednesday.
"Our action has to be guided by the respect of international human rights law and humanitarian law. The European position against death penalty remains unchanged and we believe capital punishment does not serve any deterrent purpose."
Condemning the killing of captured F-16 pilot Mouath al-Kasaesbeh, she praised Jordan's role in the "front line in the battle" against Islamic State and taking in refugees from Syria and Iraq. On Wednesday, Jordan hanged Sajida al-Rishawi, an Iraqi woman who took part in suicide bomb attacks 10 years ago, and a senior al Qaeda prisoner, Ziyad Karboli, also an Iraqi.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/04/us-mideast-crisis-jordan-eu-idUSKBN0L81JR20150204
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EU chides Jordan for hangings after pilot killed
(Reuters) - The European Union combined a statement of solidarity with Jordan over the killing of one of its military pilots by Islamist fighters with criticism of its immediate execution of two Iraqi jihadists.
"While all efforts must be made to counter terrorism and hold the perpetrators accountable, our reaction to the threat posed by (Islamic State) needs to be consistent with our common values on justice and the rights of prisoners," foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said in a statement on Wednesday.
"Our action has to be guided by the respect of international human rights law and humanitarian law. The European position against death penalty remains unchanged and we believe capital punishment does not serve any deterrent purpose."
Condemning the killing of captured F-16 pilot Mouath al-Kasaesbeh, she praised Jordan's role in the "front line in the battle" against Islamic State and taking in refugees from Syria and Iraq. On Wednesday, Jordan hanged Sajida al-Rishawi, an Iraqi woman who took part in suicide bomb attacks 10 years ago, and a senior al Qaeda prisoner, Ziyad Karboli, also an Iraqi.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/04/us-mideast-crisis-jordan-eu-idUSKBN0L81JR20150204
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Who denies that? (although I have zero hope of it happening given how almost every party which is able to do something does either want Daesh to exist (and help them) or has no motivation of eradicating them. Not exactly on topic but not that far off either: Read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/04/u...s-saudi-princes-patrons-of-al-qaeda.html?_r=1). But at this point of time, questioning these executions either as an inherently wrong action or as a useless revenge is absurd. I'm like good fucking riddance. Hope the same thing happens to the rest of them who have turned my home to a shithole a place to live and hope even worse things happen to those oil thirsty blood thirsty criminals who created, funded and condoned these animals.
How is that "imitating" Daesh?
Yup. The best way is therapy
It was not an eye for an eye. How does it matter what the purpose of these executions was? Those guys were convicted of killing of several people. They were kept alive for political reasons which were not relevant anymore.
How is that "imitating" Daesh?
Yup. The best way is therapy
It was not an eye for an eye. How does it matter what the purpose of these executions was? Those guys were convicted of killing of several people. They were kept alive for political reasons which were not relevant anymore.
the solution to stopping monsters like isis is excecution of their family members live tv.
so u want to join isis? cool we are going to burn ur family on live tv as punishment.
yeah eye to eye doesnt always work, but sometimes to u need to use absolute brutality to make ur enemy submit. see hiroshima
so u want to join isis? cool we are going to burn ur family on live tv as punishment.
yeah eye to eye doesnt always work, but sometimes to u need to use absolute brutality to make ur enemy submit. see hiroshima
i see isis similar to japan in ww2.
people dedicated to obey the emperor. men women, and children were willing to lay down their lives for him.
it took a barbaric act, one that show cased the difference in power to end the war.
edit: this is the big problem. this isis shit heads believe they are going to heaven because they have been brainwashed. so they dont care what happens to them. want to really hurt them? target their family
people dedicated to obey the emperor. men women, and children were willing to lay down their lives for him.
it took a barbaric act, one that show cased the difference in power to end the war.
edit: this is the big problem. this isis shit heads believe they are going to heaven because they have been brainwashed. so they dont care what happens to them. want to really hurt them? target their family
They are a lovely bunch, them IS.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/04/isis-crucified-children_n_6613578.html
Do you still support them @ReBeL?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/04/isis-crucified-children_n_6613578.html
Do you still support them @ReBeL?
