iPhone vs Android (1 Viewer)

[Zé Tahir]

So a few friends and I have been having this argument on and off for the past 2 weeks.

The argument pretty much started because I called Apple fans (iPhone fans specifically) annoying and really ignorant. They think the iPhone is the best thing since sliced bread, Steve Jobs is God, and that there is nothing like the iPhone out there. I also called them Apple's bitches and slaves. Let's just say it didn't go down well and hence the iPhone v Android debate.

First off, I just want to make it clear that I'm not anti-iPhone in the sense that I don't hate people for liking it and buying it...what I don't like is the arrogance of these people and the brainwashing techniques of the company.

I argued the benefit of Android; open source, not tied to a single carrier, isn't enslaved to iTunes, etc etc. but this doesn't change anything for them. The one thing that they care about is the immediate benefit of them switching to android from the iPhone. Is there an immediate benefit?

I wanna hear your arguments in this debate. About the short-term benefits.

 

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[Suns]

I've just decided to buy the Iphone 4. I don't know that much about phones but what does "open source" really mean? What is it and whats the bad thing about not having an open source?

And, Iphone vs Android..Pros and cons? Help me out guys!

 

[Martin]

You probably shouldn't call them names and imply they're idiots, it's not the best way to convince people of your point of view. (Just ask a certain Juventuz member who's been banned a lot eh.)

 

[Martin]

I've just decided to buy the Iphone 4. I don't know that much about phones but what does "open source" really mean? What is it and whats the bad thing about not having an open source?

And, Iphone vs Android..Pros and cons? Help me out guys!

Eh, long story. Open source is more or less based on the premise that once you buy something (anything) you have the right to do whatever you want with it, after all you own it, right? That means if your phone has a crappy email program, you can replace it etc.

Apple's ideology = we sell you stuff and you will like it. We don't allow you to change anything you don't like. Even if you buy something from us, we still control the device.

As you can imagine there are those who find that attitude obnoxious to put it mildly.

EDIT: The fact that you can install apps on the iPhone AT ALL is a result of pressure from consumers. Originally Apple had no such thing in mind, they didn't allow it at the start.

 

[Mohad]

So the war is shifting from Mac vs PC to iPhone vs Android? People are going to buy what they like in the end.

 

[Martin]

So the war is shifting from Mac vs PC to iPhone vs Android? People are going to buy what they like in the end.

What do you mean in the end? Isn't that what they're always doing?

 

[Mohad]

It's a matter of choice, and what's better for them.

For developers, I think iPhone is better if your intent is to develop commercial (i.e. you get paid) software.

As an open source developer, Android is probably more fun to play with.

 

[Martin]

It's a matter of choice, and what's better for them.

For developers, I think iPhone is better if your intent is to develop commercial (i.e. you get paid) software.

As an open source developer, Android is probably more fun to play with.

There have been some recent studies on this. Basically the conclusion is that if you're a dev hoping to make a living from iPhone apps you should be prepared for a very frugal lifestyle. It doesn't pay a lot.

And don't forget you have to fork over $100 to Apple just for the privilege of being a dev. And that they can censor your app any time they want (almost guaranteed to happen if it's an app competing with one of theirs, for instance). Which they do all the time, for all kinds of capricious reasons. Basically if you're a dev, Apple is your dictator. If that's a good deal for devs I'm not so sure. I would never go for it.

 

[icemaη]

I've just decided to buy the Iphone 4. I don't know that much about phones but what does "open source" really mean? What is it and whats the bad thing about not having an open source?

And, Iphone vs Android..Pros and cons? Help me out guys!

For one you can hold an Android phone any way you want unlike the iPhone 4

 

[Zé Tahir]

You probably shouldn't call them names and imply they're idiots, it's not the best way to convince people of your point of view. (Just ask a certain Juventuz member who's been banned a lot eh.)

I gave you a big summary of things that were said; things were said on both ends. That being said, I have no reason or incentive to convince them that android is better/equally good. It's their job to convince me that the iPhone is a gift from God since that's how they perceive it as. They're in the bubble, I'm not.

 

[Enron]

I have a MacBook and a Samsung phone. :eyebrows:

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You're not completely out of the bubble then!

 

[Enron]

I don't have any apps and I think apps are a bane on mankind.

 

[Martin]

I don't have any apps and I think apps are a bane on mankind.

That's what I always say about private jets.

 

[Enron]

That's what I always say about private jets.

We both wear orange shirts.

 

[Bozi]

now if this was a discussion about the advantages of Linux Martin would be all over this like Giovinco on a subs bench

 

[Martin]

now if this was a discussion about the advantages of Linux Martin would be all over this like Giovinco on a subs bench

fun fact:
Android = linux

 

[Bozi]

fun fact:
Android = linux

hence why i was so keen to jump on the Android bandwagon,and i have already recruited family memebers to the Linux way of life and they love my HTC.....it has begun

 

[Martin]

hence why i was so keen to jump on the Android bandwagon,and i have already recruited family memebers to the Linux way of life and they love my HTC.....it has begun

Before android I'd never heard of HTC.

 

[Bozi]

there phones were.......ok but since android they have really impressed me with their products