Invitation to agnostics and athiests (1 Viewer)

Jan 7, 2004
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Of course, ignorance makes any reasonable person angry too.

By the way, you have to work on improving your spelling and grammar.

Anyways, no offence intended and....Peace upon you. :pint:

obviously that was a typo.

by the way, if there is an electronic english version of the kuran, i ll be more than happy to read it
 

Snoop

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Oct 2, 2001
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I agree with Martin's first post. and I have to respond you Tahir, It is indeed stupid to call believers "stupids" for believing the existence of God, and it is also stupid to call names to those who believe that there is nothing named God and he doesn't exist.. the vice versa exactly.. No one knows any shit about God or whatever it is, since no one can prove his existense and non-existense..

If you go to the very begining you would laugh at people at how they call regular people as gods, or some people treat cows as gods etc.. as for outsiders, it is also funny for them on how people keep these religion traditions since none of today's people met the prophets or saw the miracles..

This thread will not prove anything, nothing will change and the religions and the traditions will go on forever I am afraid.
 
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    Where is Ze? I wanted him to develop that point.
    What? a brother can't have dinner now? :D

    What point? I thought I already replied to it.

    I agree with Martin's first post. and I have to respond you Tahir, It is indeed stupid to call believers "stupids" for believing the existence of God, and it is also stupid to call names to those who believe that there is nothing named God and he doesn't exist.. the vice versa exactly.. No one knows any shit about God or whatever it is, since no one can prove his existense and non-existense..

    If you go to the very beginning you would laugh at people at how they call regular people as gods, or some people treat cows as gods etc.. as for outsiders, it is also funny for them on how people keep these religion traditions since none of today's people met the prophets or saw the miracles..

    This thread will not prove anything, nothing will change and the religions and the traditions will go on forever I am afraid.
    Thanks snoop. This is what I was gonna say. It is no secret that believers can't without a shadow of a doubt prove that there is a God; that's why it's called faith. Similarly non-believers can not prove without a shadow of a doubt prove that God doesn't exist.

    I just wanted to all the non-believers to prove that God doesn't exist since they are so sure about it. But now I know that they have no arguments to disprove his existence. All they have are "no's" to every argument a believer makes and that's not very hard.

    Now that we've settled this, all I say is each to his own. Though, quit this crap about "I'm offended because you believe in a God". How do you get offended if someone believes? :confused: Quit being so melodramatic.

    Now someone kindly close this thread.
     

    Snoop

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    What? a brother can't have dinner now? :D

    What point? I thought I already replied to it.



    Thanks snoop. This is what I was gonna say. It is no secret that believers can't without a shadow of a doubt prove that there is a God; that's why it's called faith. Similarly non-believers can not prove without a shadow of a doubt prove that God doesn't exist.

    I just wanted to all the non-believers to prove that God doesn't exist since they are so sure about it. But now I know that they have no arguments to disprove his existence. All they have are "no's" to every argument a believer makes and that's not very hard.

    Now that we've settled this, all I say is each to his own. Though, quit this crap about "I'm offended because you believe in a God". How do you get offended if someone believes? :confused: Quit being so melodramatic.

    Now someone kindly close this thread.
    that word is not the exact word I might say Tahir. not every non-believers are sure that God doesn't exist. that's why I don't allow anyone to categorize me under any name, Atheist? agnostics? satanists? each one to his own just like you said.
     

    Vinman

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    Hello Ze. I'm agnostic and I accept your invitations. Since agnostics (from what I understand, it's not like I deliberately put myself in this group) believe that there's-no-way-to-know-one-way-or-the-other, I have no obligation to prove anything. Have a nice day. :p

    Since I'm somewhere in between, I get along just fine with both, although religious people scare me sometimes when they're in large groups and all yelling the same thing very loud. Individually they're smashing. :pint:

    thats it, Martin...take no sides and side with everyone :D

    I guess you cant really be wrong either way, and you could still somehow find a seat in heaven, if we are correct ;)
     
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    Now that we've settled this, all I say is each to his own. Though, quit this crap about "I'm offended because you believe in a God". How do you get offended if someone believes? :confused: Quit being so melodramatic.
    if you are refering to what i said, i believe i need to offer some explanation

    a lot of those people (well, maybe just the danish kid ;)) follow this logic

    i believe in god, therefore i am a good person and i will go to hell. you do not believe in god, therefore you are a bad person and you will not go to heaven.

    :eyebrows:
     
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    if you are refering to what i said, i believe i need to offer some explanation

    a lot of those people (well, maybe just the danish kid ;)) follow this logic

    i believe in god, therefore i am a good person and i will go to hell. you do not believe in god, therefore you are a bad person and you will not go to heaven.

    :eyebrows:
    That guy's a weirdo. I stopped replying to him because I think he's on shrooms.
     

    Martin

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    thats it, Martin...take no sides and side with everyone :D

    I guess you cant really be wrong either way, and you could still somehow find a seat in heaven, if we are correct ;)
    I suppose siding with everyone as opposed to taking one side and attacking the other is shameful :p To arms!
     

    Snoop

    Sabet is a nasty virgin
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    Satanists believe in god, they just dont support him/her
    I could be wrong (I won't insist), but I read somewhere that there are two groups called Satanists, the ones who believe in Satan and also believe in God's existense and are against God (which is obvious), these are the ones that kill humans, cats or do other freakish things.. and also the other Satanists (the name can confuse here) who think they are their own Gods , and they don't believe in "The God" and Satan's existense..

    I meant the second one in my previous post.
     

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