'Intro' to sports betting (7 Viewers)

[Intro]

Actually gamblers in the US are getting a pretty rough deal nowadays. It's practically illegal in most states. A lot of bookmakers do not accept credit cards from the US.

 

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[Tino]

i've always wanted to do online betting, but im not old enough. would someone mind signing me up if i send them the cash ?

I have exactly the same problem!

 

[Intro]

Good day with all 3 solid bets duly winning:

Volandri v Acasuso: 20.00 @ 2.00 => 40.00 (Bet365)
Martin(1.33) x Kiefer(1.33) x Chela(1.17): 20.00 @ 2.07 => 41.40 (VCBet)
Chelsea(1.25) x Reading(1.53): 20.00 @ 1.91 => 38.20 (Stan James)

The risky 8-fold accumulator fails but with the 'typical' 1-leg of the 5 today. The other 3 will all be recycled as a stronger bet for tomorrow.

Martin(1.40) x Kiefer(1.33) x Nieminen(1.30) x Ferrero(1.40) x Chela(1.16) x Murray(1.28) x Serra(1.33) x Coria(1.28):
8-fold: 10.00 @ 8.57 => 0.00 (Bet365)

Resulting in a decent profit of £36.00 but with the normal stakes of £20.00 and now reduced action after a heavy weekend there is the position to play with profit and all accounts are intact or ahead of starting position. A good winning run is now required to push further ahead.

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Bet Results(Won/Lost/Push/Pending): 6/4/1/0
Starting Bank: 200.00
Current Bank: 236.00
Profit: 36.00
Staked: 210.00
Yield: 17.14%

Bet365: 40.00
Gamebookers: 41.40
Paddy Power: 40.00
Stan James: 53.20
VC Bet: 61.40

 

[Intro]

No day off tomorrow

Using Paddy Power for the first time as they seem to overrate Andy Murray's coaching predicament for a treble of the 3 tennis players from the failed combo.

Tennis:
Coria(1.29) x Murray(1.40) x Serra(1.36) @ 2.46 (Paddy Power)

Also the big Champion's League match. No emotions here with Milan except cold-hard numbers. So far the asian handicap is at -1/4 for Milan but because a draw also seems a likely result - I will opt for the Milan win with stakes back if that happens. Still expect to see a home win to get me some money though.

Football:
AC Milan[Draw No Bet] v Barcelona: 20.00 @ 1.73 (VCBet)

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Bet Results(Won/Lost/Push/Pending): 6/4/1/2
Starting Bank: 200.00
Current Bank: 196.00
Pending: 40.00

Bet365: 40.00
Gamebookers: 41.40
Paddy Power: 20.00
Stan James: 53.20
VC Bet: 41.40

 

[Tino]

good work Intro!

 

[Intro]

good work Intro!

Thanks buddy - nice to see you following with interest.

Terrible and VERY painful today:
- Firstly Murray completely blows up against one of the worst tennis players on the tour. The winner would face Nadal and while Murray would have got a real whacking, Nadal takes on Lisnard in one of the biggest mismatches ever. Bet365 have a price of 1.00 :eyebrows: err...buying money? Not quite - more lending it and getting it returned with no interest. 6-0 6-0 tomorrow? Cannot be ruled out.
- Milan: Ouch. Never saw that result and wasn't deserved but maybe karma was finally delivered at the San Siro.

Will look into tomorrow with tennis action and Arsenal-Villarreal match but really need wins to break into a comfortable position. I think it's probably best to blow off my steam in the CL thread first.

Anyway here's the stats:

Coria(1.29) x Murray(1.40) x Serra(1.36) @ 2.46 => 0.00 (Paddy Power)
AC Milan[Draw No Bet] v Barcelona: 20.00 @ 1.73 => 0.00 (VCBet)

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Bet Results(Won/Lost/Push/Pending): 6/6/1/0
Starting Bank: 200.00
Current Bank: 196.00
Profit: -4.00

Bet365: 40.00
Gamebookers: 41.40
Paddy Power: 20.00
Stan James: 53.20
VC Bet: 41.40

 

[Intro]

An attempt to get back to winning ways with two solid tennis doubles tomorrow:

Ferrero(1.53) x Kiefer(1.33): 20.00 @ 2.03 (VCBet)
Ferrer(1.50) x Gonzalez(1.33): 20.00 @ 2.00 (Stan James)

Maybe a tennis single later...like Acasuso and Simon as underdog plays but it depends how things go earlier on. Also need some profit hopefully to take advantage of Villarreal.

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Bet Results(Won/Lost/Push/Pending): 6/6/1/2
Starting Bank: 200.00
Current Bank: 156.00
Pending: 40.00

Bet365: 40.00
Gamebookers: 41.40
Paddy Power: 20.00
Stan James: 33.20
VC Bet: 21.40

 

[Hambon]

Keep it up....lovin it bro

 

[Intro]

Keep it up....lovin it bro

Thanks mate but peaks-and-troughs right now...and not enough profit for many of these int: and instead I'm drowning my sorrows after the 0-1 tonight. Funny how most members here in the vBookie avoided Milan. Maybe it's easier with virtual money or I am really bad.

Also edited last post to add another bet.

 

[Intro]

One of those tennis bets was a winner earlier and waiting for a Fernando Gonzalez win for the second to follow.

Ferrero(1.53) x Kiefer(1.33): 20.00 @ 2.03 => 40.60 (VCBet)

Adding:

Arsenal v Villarreal(+1.0AH): 20.00 @ 1.80 (Gamebookers)

The whole World seems to be on Arsenal in what is a ridiculous price for the home win at this stage of a tournament. The asian handicap and price has settled high enough for me to like. Only a 2+ goals win from Arsenal would result in a lost bet although atleast a draw is needed from Villarreal for a winning bet.

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Bet Results(Won/Lost/Push/Pending): 7/6/1/2
Starting Bank: 200.00
Current Bank: 176.60
Pending: 40.00

Bet365: 40.00
Gamebookers: 21.40
Paddy Power: 20.00
Stan James: 33.20
VC Bet: 62.00

 

[Intro]

Results of outstanding bets:

Ferrer(1.50) x Gonzalez(1.33): 20.00 @ 2.00 => 40.00 (Stan James)
Arsenal v Villarreal(+1.0AH): 20.00 @ 1.80 => 20.00 (Gamebookers)

Tennis double came home but not without some epic moments. Villarreal kept it close unfortunately not close enough for a winning bet but I didn't miss anything huge with the Arsenal win I think. Although many punters will have made money on the <2.5 goals market, no goal (either team not to score), Arsenal clean sheet (or win to nil) which were all predictable bets. With the current predicament I wasn't confident enough to 'pull the trigger' on those but usually they are the sort of bets that are in my radar. So as soon as I can get break into healthy profit expect to see plenty gutsy and exotic bets :eyebrows:.

The overall status?

Back in profit after yesterday's losing bets which was a pity as otherwise I would anticipated somewhere between 50.00-100.00 profit inside the first week which would have been exceptional in increasing the starting bank by 50%. However, the most important lesson here is that despite my losing bets I have not risked too much of my starting fund and this is where money management is crucial. So many punters cannot handle the consequences of losses and soon it leads to an irreversible one-way road straight to the bookies hands. Profit has to be built slow and steady.

Tomorrow? UEFA Cup and Dutch play-offs and a tricky tennis coupon for tomorrow there could be less opportunities. Perhaps it's best to risk less and keep the profit for the weekend. Time for some research tonight for tomorrow's tennis and then a closer look at the football.

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Bet Results(Won/Lost/Push/Pending): 8/6/2/0
Starting Bank: 200.00
Current Bank: 236.60
Profit: 36.60
Staked: 310.00
Yield: 11.8%

Bet365: 40.00
Gamebookers: 41.40
Paddy Power: 20.00
Stan James: 73.20
VC Bet: 62.00

 

[Snoop]

If you need hints from the master of the bets (that's me ) just let me know.



j/k well done mate. Seems you never play multiple bet :smile:

 

[Intro]

Just one tennis bet for tomorrow:

Ljubicic(1.44) x Coria(1.36): 20.00 @ 1.96 (Stan James)

I also like the look of going against Nalbandian but probably won't opt for it here as I'll save my money for UEFA Cup and Ajax-Feyernoord match - more on that later.

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Bet Results(Won/Lost/Push/Pending): 8/6/2/1
Starting Bank: 200.00
Current Bank: 216.60
Pending: 20.00

Bet365: 40.00
Gamebookers: 41.40
Paddy Power: 20.00
Stan James: 53.20
VC Bet: 62.00

 

[Intro]

If you need hints from the master of the bets (that's me ) just let me know.



j/k well done mate. Seems you never play multiple bet :smile:

Sure. I am very open to input...especially ones which turns into wins and therefore int:.

As for the multiples: I do and have once in this campaign. It was an unsuccessful 8-fold where TWO legs let me down. I'm quite a disciplined bettor and I do play singles mainly as this where good practice is obtained from in that 1) you are playing with valuable odds and not silly low prices which do not reflect probabilities and 2) it is a simple fact that there is MUCH less risk with a single. Any mathematicians can calculate all the possible permutations of, say 10 football matches (each having 3 scenarios; home, draw or away) the chances of you hitting the correct one isn't worth the payout.

But I do play doubles and trebles where I feel they are strong to get the overall price for the bet to the price I like. The only way you firstly break-even and then obtain profit in the long-term is through slow, steady (and yes maybe boring!) profit.

Anyway - enough about my strategy. How successful are your multiple bets? I'm all ears to an accelerator of my bank balance.

 

[Snoop]

Sure. I am very open to input...especially ones which turns into wins and therefore int:.

As for the multiples: I do and have once in this campaign. It was an unsuccessful 8-fold where TWO legs let me down. I'm quite a disciplined bettor and I do play singles mainly as this where good practice is obtained from in that 1) you are playing with valuable odds and not silly low prices which do not reflect probabilities and 2) it is a simple fact that there is MUCH less risk with a single. Any mathematicians can calculate all the possible permutations of, say 10 football matches (each having 3 scenarios; home, draw or away) the chances of you hitting the correct one isn't worth the payout.

But I do play doubles and trebles where I feel they are strong to get the overall price for the bet to the price I like. The only way you firstly break-even and then obtain profit in the long-term is through slow, steady (and yes maybe boring!) profit.

Anyway - enough about my strategy. How successful are your multiple bets? I'm all ears to an accelerator of my bank balance.

haha!

I never won on multiple bets, because I did it for fun, I mean placing half dollar, on more than 8 matches, with possible win 50$. see what I mean? I wouldn't play 20$ on those, like you said it is very risky, anything is possible, specially at the moment, where everything REALLY happens at these times, end of the season.

ok check these:

Juve vs. Lazio draw. 3.25
Fenerbahce vs Galatasaray draw 3.35
Milan wins this week. 1.85

If you put ten each, I guarantee you 32$ come back at least

 

[Snoop]

take a look at these:

Livorno - Palermo over 2.5 goals = 2.02
Messina - AC Milan over 2.5 = 1.9

nice odds

 

[Intro]

Only bet for today wins:

Ljubicic(1.44) x Coria(1.36): 20.00 @ 1.96 => 39.20 (Stan James)

Not without Coria not being able to perform the basics of being a professional tennis player - throwing in over 20 double faults for the second match running.

Even worse he won again :rofl2:

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Bet Results(Won/Lost/Push/Pending): 9/6/2/0
Starting Bank: 200.00
Current Bank: 255.80
Profit: 55.80
Staked: 330.00
Yield: 16.91%

Bet365: 40.00
Gamebookers: 41.40
Paddy Power: 20.00
Stan James: 92.40
VC Bet: 62.00

 

[Intro]

Snoop, thanks for the input mate.

Yeah - you're right it's a difficult stage of the season with many unpredictable results right now. On those ideas:

Draws: I'm not a fan of betting on the draw unless their are big factors (i.e. cup tie with extra-time or it being a good result for both teams). Why? Well it is the same with any other 1X2 bet with a 1 of 3 outcomes and the draw despite maybe being attractive in terms of price is the toughest to justify and also is the most unglamorous result to chase especially when watching. Also usually you have to play maybe two matches you think could be draws like you suggested and then if one comes through an overall profit is made. Actually hunting for draws can be a useful way of finding an edge; and then play the asian handicap which leaves only two possible outcomes - eliminating the draw.

Your other suggestion with Milan I'm not sure about and won't decide until I research this one. Their motivation? Is it clear - challenge for Scudetto or prepare for Barca? Very difficult and I don't like the precedent with Lecce. Also I'm not a fan of under/over goals market unless their is a clear edge. Any reasons to go with the Livorno and Messina games going that way? Milan especially have been conceding less in Serie A recently.

Keep the suggestions coming though mate - I could do with some Italian 'experts' of which there should be many here.

 

[Intro]

Also Jeeks where are your Swedish league previews you promised . I count SEVEN!!! different league markets offered at Bet365. Surely your moderators jobs here can't be that time-consuming can they?

Just joking mate - actually is there a team you follow in Sweden?

 

[Snoop]

I know you bet with Logic and stats, but Intro like you said man, everything can happen, we can rely on logic, stats, luck/feeling (this one you can't explain it, you just predict it, without understanding it). that sounds weird I know, but that how it goes, I am a little luckier there maybe :smile:


Juve vs. Lazio draw. 3.25
We know Juve's performance lately, and we know Lazio's. Juve will be motivated more to win, but I have the feeling that Lazio will come back and close their area to gain the point. I can't see my self juve to turn to their full power in this particular match, because it is not the end of their chances, the outcome of this match will wake up the Juve.

Fenerbahce vs Galatasaray draw 3.35


GS is in Super form, winning match after match, while FB lost last week 5-3 against small team, which put a big pressure on them, because they drop down to second position. FB is doing bad lately, and GS are very very motivated to Grab a point in FB to keep their lead, few games left around 4 maybe. FB will do their best to win, but won't be easy against a very motivated GS.

Livorno - Palermo over 2.5 goals = 2.02
both of them are atacking teams against smaller teams, I believe it will end over 2 goals.

Messina - AC Milan over 2.5 = 1.9
Milan wins this week. 1.85

Messina could score, and Milan will want to comeback. no matter what everyone say, Milan wants the scudetto, they know it very well that they screwed it againt Barca, and that Barca will never lose, so ending the seasons trophyless with be a huge mistake..