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[Martin]

How he picked a bunch of crappy newspapers and from that concluded that he was happy not living in those countries. Look at the rubbish papers he picked from Britain, I'm sure there are "papers" like that in America also. It was just a cheap shot, and if that's the way he feels he can keep his old ass where it is.

From what I recall, the only thing he said specifically was that those two papers were still shit and "that's one thing that hasn't changed", maybe I missed something later on though.

 

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[Zlatan]

We can choose the path ourselves. The Kingdom is prepared already and it is for those who are ready and faithful to Him and waiting for Him. He knows what will happen and He is always there. But ultimately, we are still the ones to make the decision to believe in Him and to do His will. If we reject Him, how can He have us by His side in heaven?

We must be purified before He brings us to His kingdom. Unless we are pure-hearted, we cannot see His kingdom. However, the devil is always there, and sin and temptation are always in our hearts to draw us away from Him. We can be pure-hearted by being obedient, having Him first in our hearts and believing in Him. Through prayer and following His word, we will communicate with Him and be closer to him. The Bible is there to help us as sometimes He will communicate to us through His word.




If He isn't perfect, who will be? He is the Creator and most powerful.

1. Thats not the point. Even though we have free will, he's omnipotent, and by definition should know what we would chose, hence making this test redundant.

2. If he tried to creat us perfect, by his image, and we didnt turn out to be perfect than by definition he cant be perfect either.

 

[Shixian]

1. Thats not the point. Even though we have free will, he's omnipotent, and by definition should know what we would chose, hence making this test redundant.

2. If he tried to creat us perfect, by his image, and we didnt turn out to be perfect than by definition he cant be perfect either.

1. Opps. Went out of point.
Anyway, omnipotent only means "Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful". But even so, God still knows all and had it planned.

But the main thing is that He wants His children to be obedient to go to His already-prepared Kingdom. He may have everything planned but still, we are the ones to make the choice. Do you see the point? He knows everything in our hearts. That's why He is sadded that many in the world haven't or do not believe in Him. He wants everyone to spread the gospel and let everyone know the Truth so that we can be obedient. We have to make the choice of believing Him and accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior.

2. He created as to be like His image and we only have a breath of His. He did not create us to be perfect. He just created us looking like Him.
How can we compared only His breath to Him, the Almighty and who is omnipotent (as said by you in 1.)?

 

[Henry]

note the difference between omnipoent and omniscient

 

[Zlatan]

I just hope you arent trying to convert me because it wont work

 

[Shixian]

I just hope you arent trying to convert me because it wont work

I am just letting you to know His word. The rest will be His work.

 

[Shixian]

note the difference between omnipoent and omniscient

God is both!

 

[Zlatan]

I am just letting you to know His word. The rest will be His work.

I wouldnt bet on it

 

[Henry]

God is both!

I know-but Zlatan doesn't

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I know-but Zlatan doesn't

That is because Zlatan and I know, since we are "in the know," that there is no "God."

 

[Zlatan]

Exactly.

 

[Torkel]

From what I recall, the only thing he said specifically was that those two papers were still shit and "that's one thing that hasn't changed", maybe I missed something later on though.

What pissed me off was that when he finished: "You may wonder why I buy these newspapers; because they make me glad I live in America". Not exactly journalism at it's best, IMO.

 

[Martin]

What pissed me off was that when he finished: "You may wonder why I buy these newspapers; because they make me glad I live in America". Not exactly journalism at it's best, IMO.

Oh well that's just stupid then.

 

[Seven]

Conclusion: God created man. God gave him a will of his own so that man could choose whether or not he would live by God rules. God punished man for not following his rules.

Is it me or is something wrong there?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

the question surrounds your intentions; are they to seek that which is true, be it ear pleasing or not, or is it to harangue the forum on the institution of religion?

 

[mikhail]

the question surrounds your intentions; are they to seek that which is true, be it ear pleasing or not, or is it to harangue the forum on the institution of religion?

Most people approach a debate with no intention of changing their viewpoint. Long term though, little bits of accumulated opinion can make you rethink your position on something. In the meantime, no one actually responds to anyone's points. We get mostly strawman arguments. :sick:

 

[Chxta]

So, what is this all about?

 

[Shixian]

Most people approach a debate with no intention of changing their viewpoint. Long term though, little bits of accumulated opinion can make you rethink your position on something. In the meantime, no one actually responds to anyone's points. We get mostly strawman arguments. :sick:

i guess we have to just look at it as a time of sharing viewpoints.

and of course light-heartly..

 

[Dan]

So, what is this all about?

Stale arguement about religion. Refer to your blog if you want to know what stale means

 

[Cronios]

Conclusion: God created man. God gave him a will of his own so that man could choose whether or not he would live by God rules. God punished man for not following his rules.

Is it me or is something wrong there?

No He doesnt punish u,u can choose if u will join Him or not,
u actually punish ur self if u consider it a punishment not to join Him
and choose not to do his will

Thats a brilliant plan actually, u know what u have to do,
u know u will be judged for ur actions
and u can choose if u wont to do it, or not
unbiased because noone is right in front of ur face to force u, to do it...