Tifoso Lou said:
Nope---because we want everyone to go to Heaven
or would that be too time consuming so you cannot live your life? my, how selfish of you!
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Then convert me and a other billion people on this planet.
or would that be too time consuming so you cannot live your life? my, how selfish of you!
or would that be too time consuming so you cannot live your life? my, how selfish of you!
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Tifoso Lou said:
There are a billion or so of us---so we only need to convince 3 each
anyway, so can you say your goal as a catholic is solely to convert other people in to catholism? Or do you do it more for the getting into heaven part?
I think its more like, you do not become catholic to get into heaven, you don't remain catholic solely for the purpose of getting into heaven, but you follow the rules of catholicism to get into heaven (not only for that, but it'll play a part in it all). You must not forget that catholics have faith and that's an essential part of it all.
I think.
I think.
sH][x][aN said:
He loves Man. Leaving us on our own? He is always there. It is just some never put in the effort to communicate with God. They cannot blame Him for not being there when they chose not to communicate with Him.
Have you heard the story of the footprints on the sand?
Man was walking along the beach with the Lord. There were two sets of footprints as they walk along the journey of Life. However, when Man was going through a suffering and crisis, he only sees one set of deep and heavy footprints. He thought the Lord had forsaken him when he was down and at his lowest point. He cired: "My Lord, why have you forsaken me at the lowest period of my life??"
The Lord then replied: "My Son, I was carrying you during that time.."
We need a personal relationship with God. And Christians believe that Jesus is the One that brings us closer to God/builds the bridge between Man and God. Therefore we pray through Jesus.
But how to achieve the personal relationship with God and Jesus? Prayer is one of them. Reading His Word is also one method. Most importantly, we have to put God first in our hearts and do His will; to spread the Word of God and the Truth.
It is up to every single soul and their discretion to make this decision to believe in Him and have a personal relationship with God. He is putting us all to a test. That's why there's a Judgement Day at the end of the Endtimes (which I believe is now or very soon).
However, it is sad that people choose to ignore and don't believe in any single thing and turing away. Sometimes some of the believers got too extreme and it might turn people even more away from salvation.
The reason why Christians and maybe Catholics(I'm not sure) ask others to believe in their religion is because it is God's will and it is our purpose. The end times is approaching and people want their fellow mates and families and other men to join them in heaven through salvation.
Just sharing His Word..hope i do not offend anyone with this post. God bless you all
Have you heard the story of the footprints on the sand?
Man was walking along the beach with the Lord. There were two sets of footprints as they walk along the journey of Life. However, when Man was going through a suffering and crisis, he only sees one set of deep and heavy footprints. He thought the Lord had forsaken him when he was down and at his lowest point. He cired: "My Lord, why have you forsaken me at the lowest period of my life??"
The Lord then replied: "My Son, I was carrying you during that time.."
We need a personal relationship with God. And Christians believe that Jesus is the One that brings us closer to God/builds the bridge between Man and God. Therefore we pray through Jesus.
But how to achieve the personal relationship with God and Jesus? Prayer is one of them. Reading His Word is also one method. Most importantly, we have to put God first in our hearts and do His will; to spread the Word of God and the Truth.
It is up to every single soul and their discretion to make this decision to believe in Him and have a personal relationship with God. He is putting us all to a test. That's why there's a Judgement Day at the end of the Endtimes (which I believe is now or very soon).
However, it is sad that people choose to ignore and don't believe in any single thing and turing away. Sometimes some of the believers got too extreme and it might turn people even more away from salvation.
The reason why Christians and maybe Catholics(I'm not sure) ask others to believe in their religion is because it is God's will and it is our purpose. The end times is approaching and people want their fellow mates and families and other men to join them in heaven through salvation.
Just sharing His Word..hope i do not offend anyone with this post. God bless you all
He can do everything, so putting us here on earth seems a miserable idea. And if he put us here so that we would go through a learning process, that's pretty dumb as well. Why didn't he make us perfect in the first place?
Got ya.
He absolutely could do that. Or he could choose to come here and reign visibly as king...but---
then we would lose our free will (ie, no one, seeing him and knowing him for what he was would reject him). Our free will would be gone (as would our faith) because we would see him. It would cease to be a choice. We would all in essence be toy soldiers.
This was not his original plan (read Aquinas). Our fallen-ness caused it.
But don't worry, we all get a second chance.
He absolutely could do that. Or he could choose to come here and reign visibly as king...but---
then we would lose our free will (ie, no one, seeing him and knowing him for what he was would reject him). Our free will would be gone (as would our faith) because we would see him. It would cease to be a choice. We would all in essence be toy soldiers.
This was not his original plan (read Aquinas). Our fallen-ness caused it.
But don't worry, we all get a second chance.
Tifoso Lou said:
OK
I believe that non-believers are missing out, sure. (That is NOT a judgemental statement--it is certainly not my place to judge someone's beliefs or lack thereof).
I want to share the joy that I have as a believer, sure--but, following the example of the RC faith (at least in modern times--John Paul II leaps to mind) I won't be "in your face about it". I believe we are here to proclaim by example.
Does that answer you, amico mio?
I believe that non-believers are missing out, sure. (That is NOT a judgemental statement--it is certainly not my place to judge someone's beliefs or lack thereof).
I want to share the joy that I have as a believer, sure--but, following the example of the RC faith (at least in modern times--John Paul II leaps to mind) I won't be "in your face about it". I believe we are here to proclaim by example.
Does that answer you, amico mio?
