Immigration (5 Viewers)
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I don't quite follow your argument here. First you say people should not be forced out of their own country? Is that a way of saying that your family was? Because if not then you're saying that it was a choice, and a choice that was painful in some ways, but probably was done for a good reason, giving up something to have something else?
I would. To me, it's not having to speak in a language other than my native language or mixing with people other than Iranians, it's, at least to me, just making the right decision concerning both my future and what that's going to happen to Iran's future.
Raising kids in Iran would be a horrible thing to do. Schools fill the kid's head with nonsense about religion, the auntie believes that the history's biggest tragedy is the "Arab conquest of Persia", the uncle believes Shah's son must take control of Iran, the government is talking about a new public enemy everyday, state tv says Muslims will conquer the whole world one day, grandma says her prayers everyday but believes that Islam is why we are so poor and underdeveloped. Even better, everyone thinks they know the whole truth. So you, as a parent, can never teach the kid that "you go your way, I'll go your way too"
Contradictions, that's what we are made of
Raising kids in Iran would be a horrible thing to do. Schools fill the kid's head with nonsense about religion, the auntie believes that the history's biggest tragedy is the "Arab conquest of Persia", the uncle believes Shah's son must take control of Iran, the government is talking about a new public enemy everyday, state tv says Muslims will conquer the whole world one day, grandma says her prayers everyday but believes that Islam is why we are so poor and underdeveloped. Even better, everyone thinks they know the whole truth. So you, as a parent, can never teach the kid that "you go your way, I'll go your way too"
Contradictions, that's what we are made of
Why? What makes Iranians so great? This is the exact opposite of my view on the same situation, I moved from a place that was not diverse enough for me to live in a place that is. And I can't speak "my" language around here, but so what? What makes "my" language so special, it's just a language like any other.
The thing that makes Holland great is that there are not only immigrants but also lots of people who live here temporarily ("expats" as they like to style themselves) for work. Which means the local population has no choice but to deal with all these various people. And that makes the kind of "Norway is the best country in the world" idiotic rhetoric almost impossible.
The thing that makes Holland great is that there are not only immigrants but also lots of people who live here temporarily ("expats" as they like to style themselves) for work. Which means the local population has no choice but to deal with all these various people. And that makes the kind of "Norway is the best country in the world" idiotic rhetoric almost impossible.
I think you got me wrong there Martin, you asked "How many of our Juventuz friends would like to live in a town where there are no Persians or Pakistanis or immigrants of any kind?" and I said I would. I don't care if there is no Iranian living in the place I live, neither do I care about living in a place where no one talks in my native language. That sort of things doesn't matter to me at all. Here:
I must have added: it's not having to speak in a language other than my native language which bothers me
I must have added: it's not having to speak in a language other than my native language which bothers me
Oh so you mean Scotland
The empire led to Britain opening its doors to people long before other countries had en masse immigration from distant lands, people travelling thousands of miles to bring a completely different culture to these islands. You won't ever eradicate racism or xenophobia but having been around quite a few countries now including Japan, Italy, Germany and even France in the first world, my opinion is that they are trailing behind in this respect. One trait is quite common; religious segregation.
The empire led to Britain opening its doors to people long before other countries had en masse immigration from distant lands, people travelling thousands of miles to bring a completely different culture to these islands. You won't ever eradicate racism or xenophobia but having been around quite a few countries now including Japan, Italy, Germany and even France in the first world, my opinion is that they are trailing behind in this respect. One trait is quite common; religious segregation.
- How many of our Juventuz friends would like to live in a town where there are no Persians?
- I would.
= I would like to live in a town where there are no Persians.
I wrote Persians and Pakistanis because I was replying to Tahir and he brought them up. They were only meant as examples of immigrants in his environment, not to be taken concretely.