Immigration, migration, refugees. (1 Viewer)

[Martin]

So fine...

I can't talk about being a refugee in Europe as I didn't experience that...

Thank you, anyway...

I've never been a refugee either. It isn't good to mangle everything concerned with immigration into one.

 

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[The Goalkeeper]

I'm French, sorry to say but we are racists. Not me though, i swear

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I'm French, sorry to say but we are racists. Not me though, i swear

You're not french, dont be such a clown

 

[JCK]

Well, each refugee has to be integrated in the society, but the degree of his integration depends on how he involoves himself in doing good things to his new community, but I think the most important factor here is the acceptancy of the community to this new alien who came from abroad because of several reasons...

Some of the hosts see him as a threat to their working opportunities, their religious thoughts or their purity...

On the other hand, you can see some of the hosts who see the new refugee as a good addition to the community by exploiting his skills into the general good of the whole community...

Unfortunately, I have to talk about my experience...

Palestinians did many wrong things, and I can't deny that we were the reason for many wars in the region because we have so much varied opinions between the different lyers of us...

Most of the Palestinians who went to the West were treated generously, and I mean with West, South America and some regions of USA and Europe...This was an example for the second type mentioned above...

The painful thing is that the group of palestinians who ran away to most of the Arab countries were treated badly, sometimes because of behaviours of some refugees, but at most of the times, without any justification...

That's the reason that makes the refugees' issue in the Middle East never-ending for ever...

Here we go again to the Arabs and how much they love Palestine and Lebanon. They are so good at saying it...

 

[JCK]

Thing is these "communities" you are talking about are actually countries. Whenever immigration is the subject I believe that ideologically speaking you can't say someone's not welcome in a country. Why would an African or a Lebanese have to go a harder life than a Belgian? Because he wasn't born in Belgium?

It is hidden racism, something no one can avoid no matter what. But this hidden racism should not be an obstacle for an African to work as hard as a Belgian. It is again up to the individual.

 

[JCK]

Here's the difference, mate...

I'm also talking about Middle East only...

If you're a refugee, you have to pass some generations until you can regain your identity as a human who can be productive according to other people...

And I assure you, that your grandsons will be the first people to insult you and your being a chicken bringing them into another country...

Enough about Middle East, I think...

I think Palestinians could have become like the Armenians in Lebanon (a huge respect and salute to these people) but they chose otherwise. They chose to make the Lebanese dislike them and this dislike can be hate in cases.

Lebanon have a huge number of Sri Lankis and Indians and they do very much better than Palestinians.

Here I gave you two examples of two different types of immigrants to Lebanon (a country in the Middle East) that refute your theory and only proves my theory right.

It is the Palestinians who did not want to gain something from being refugees and here I don't mean all Palestinians and I'd rather not generalize here. And that being mentioned it is not only in Lebanon, in Europe as well but to a lesser extent in Europe just because there is a "system" there.

 

[Geof]

I'm French, sorry to say but we are racists. Not me though, i swear

I doesn't take a genius to see that you're anything but french. I guess your just pathetic

 

[Bjerknes]

In the United States, every big city has little sectors of mini-countries, such as Chinatown in New York, Little Italy in Baltimore, and Greektown and the Arab community in and around Detroit, Michigan. These places are decorated with the decor of normal Chinese and Greek traditions, with even Chinese characters lacing every store and every single thing you see. It's basically as if you were taking a stroll through any densely-populated city in China.

These Chinese and Greek immigrants did not assimilate. They live within their own culture safely within the part of town that is their own home away from home. I cannot speak with certainty regarding how many of these non-assimilated immigrants speak English, however chances are many do not know the primary language of this country and do not even strive to learn it. I suppose that is their choice, however in my opinion, if you live off the land and call the land your home, you should have the desire to at least learn the language and "assimilate" to some minimal extent. This is not Bejing or Shanghai, but I can see why immigrants would want it to be. It's just a matter of complacency and love and necessity for the culture they have lived and breathed their entire life.

Can I blame them? I suppose not. And actually it's quite interesting taking a walk through Chinatown, experiancing the sights and sounds of a culture whose real base resides thousands of miles away. It's a pleasure to enjoy authentic Greek cuisine cooked by a Greek whose great grandfather restored the restaurant weeks after setting foot in this country...right within the confines of your own country. When you think about it, without all these mini-countries within our own borders, this place would be rather boring. And to take it to the extreme...when you think about it, the United States would not even exist.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

My favorite place is Little America in Shanghai, WV.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I'm French, sorry to say but we are racists. Not me though, i swear

What a joke.

 

[Joaco]

My family migrate of Italy when the II world war started, then they back to Italy but that's a different history.
In Chile there's a lot of refugges of Colombia or those country where the "guerrilla" attacks and kindnap people. Some migrants of Bolivia and Peru, trying to get some good oportunities of work.

 

[ReBeL]

I think Palestinians could have become like the Armenians in Lebanon (a huge respect and salute to these people) but they chose otherwise. They chose to make the Lebanese dislike them and this dislike can be hate in cases.

Lebanon have a huge number of Sri Lankis and Indians and they do very much better than Palestinians.

Here I gave you two examples of two different types of immigrants to Lebanon (a country in the Middle East) that refute your theory and only proves my theory right.

It is the Palestinians who did not want to gain something from being refugees and here I don't mean all Palestinians and I'd rather not generalize here. And that being mentioned it is not only in Lebanon, in Europe as well but to a lesser extent in Europe just because there is a "system" there.

My dear, Armenians have become like any other citizen in Lebanon because the Lebanese didn't put them in closed camps and treated them badly...

Forbidding the human from working 63 jobs, and forbidding people from even building additional bulidings in their camp, can't be a motive for these people to get into the community as nothing happens...

 

[Seven]

You were in Salerno? How did you like it?

And I vividly remember having a discussion with an Italian whom I'd just met. He went on to mention how he had been studying English for seven years so naturally I ask him to say something in English, he continued:

"Aye am... No, wait-er, maye nameh eess"





I find the lack of capacity to understand is usually hidden by denial of the person suffering from it. Someone seemingly unwilling to understand usually doesn't have the capacity to...

A friend of mine phrased it beautifully the other day: De stommeling beseft nooit dat 'ie stom is

Well I've been there more often, but the last time was three years ago so the memory was fading. There's definitely something charming about Salerno, but not speaking the language as fast as I would like and having brown hair instead of black makes people give you the look real fast there .

You could be right about the lack of capacity, perhaps I do credit people too fast. For months I was convinced Vinman was just an act, you know.