Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (122 Viewers)

Zizou

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Apr 21, 2003
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1. Because in the Bayern game, even though Zlatan's penetration was excellent, he did not provide an assist. He put up a shot that Kahn should have easily handled. Del Piero was good enough to be in the right place at the right time, managing to avoid the offside trap. Now it was just a tap in, but if you consider it closely, he really wasn't doing what he's good at. Taps like these were Trezeguet's job, but Del Piero was able to adapt in order to accomodate Zlatan more than Zlatan did to accomodate Alex.
And that is why you guys are being hypocrites. When Trezeguet scores those kind of goals he's just lucky and a poucher and not good for anything else. When DP does it then he's great cos he was in the right place at the right time.

Oh please, be coherent in your player's analysis guys.
 

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ebraheej

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Jul 16, 2002
589
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++



You have mentioned a very healthy thing here. I really like it a lot, but this brings up another issue to be discussed.

Being our 6th best player this season, does he deserve this exaggerated salary?
But we are talking about one season here, a season that was interupted by injuries, and was a season were DP felt that the club might actualy sell him and replace him with another player. You have to admit that tis was a very hard season for Del Piero, physicaly and mentally, but he still managed to deliver the goods when he was counted on.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,127
++ [ originally posted by DelpieroForLife ] ++


I think a football expert like you who wanna get rid of one of our most influential players this year won't easily trust a junkie who didn't play football in the last season as a trustful replacment :rolleyes:
If you did not know Mutu is perfectly clean now and made his debut with Juventus this past weekend, looking pretty good actually.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
++ [ originally posted by kthx ] ++
Milan's assist was not only great and came in a big match...but was also intended. He wasn't going for goal, it was a pure assist.
1. A game against Bayern in München is not a big game, I guess.

2. Concerning the assisst, I can't remember which defender was facing DP, but I know for sure that first, DP tried to pass the ball, it hit a defender, bounced upwards, while it was going down he bicycled it.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
++ [ originally posted by ebraheej ] ++


But we are talking about one season here, a season that was interupted by injuries, and was a season were DP felt that the club might actualy sell him and replace him with another player. You have to admit that tis was a very hard season for Del Piero, physicaly and mentally, but he still managed to deliver the goods when he was counted on.

I think you mentioned Del Piero as being our 6th best player THIS (one ) season. How was Del Piero last season? I think this makes it 2 seasons right?
When we reached the CL final 2 seasn ago, he was also good....not our best but one of the best 3 players. What about the season before that?
 

kthx

Junior Member
Mar 26, 2005
115
++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++


And that is why you guys are being hypocrites. When Trezeguet scores those kind of goals he's just lucky and a poucher and not good for anything else. When DP does it then he's great cos he was in the right place at the right time.

Oh please, be coherent in your player's analysis guys.
Do you know me? Have you ever read anything posted by me in any way stating that?

I rate what Trezeguet does very highly for your information. And to be honest, I came to realize how important his job is in this particular season more than ever, after seeing two similar players share our attacking positions, and no one in the penalty area to score. Yes Trezeguet is a 'poacher', but Del Piero isn't. The point I was making is that he shifted his role to replace Trezeguet mainly because Zlatan wouldn't, even if it would have been easier the other way around since Zlatan is much bigger and taller.

Please read other people's posts, think, and then reply next time.
 

ebraheej

Senior Member
Jul 16, 2002
589
++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++


And that is why you guys are being hypocrites. When Trezeguet scores those kind of goals he's just lucky and a poucher and not good for anything else. When DP does it then he's great cos he was in the right place at the right time.

Oh please, be coherent in your player's analysis guys.
Yes when Trezeguet scores these kind of goals we say that this is the only thing he's good at, and thats the truth. He's only good at scoring goals and isnt found anywhere in the teams build up. BUT it doesnt matter as long as he score goals, and finish every chance he gets, he's one of the finest finishers in the world.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,127
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


What is your problem dude?
Their problem is they are getting raped in this discussion and they know it. You get rather flustered when you are arguing a point you know yourself is actually wrong and continue to do so until someone proves you wrong. Once that happens the insults start flying.
 

kthx

Junior Member
Mar 26, 2005
115
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++



I think you mentioned Del Piero as being our 6th best player THIS (one ) season. How was Del Piero last season? I think this makes it 2 seasons right?
When we reached the CL final 2 seasn ago, he was also good....not our best but one of the best 3 players. What about the season before that?
I don't think you blame Trezeguet for not being one of our best players this season, mainly because he was injured.

That same logic should apply to Del Piero of last season, when he was injured not once, not twice, but three times!

And in 2001-2, he was also one of the best players.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by kthx ] ++


Do you know me? Have you ever read anything posted by me in any way stating that?

I rate what Trezeguet does very highly for your information. And to be honest, I came to realize how important his job is in this particular season more than ever, after seeing two similar players share our attacking positions, and no one in the penalty area to score. Yes Trezeguet is a 'poacher', but Del Piero isn't. The point I was making is that he shifted his role to replace Trezeguet mainly because Zlatan wouldn't, even if it would have been easier the other way around since Zlatan is much bigger and taller.

Please read other people's posts, think, and then reply next time.

Do you have inside information concering this claim you just made?
 

kthx

Junior Member
Mar 26, 2005
115
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


1. A game against Bayern in München is not a big game, I guess.

2. Concerning the assisst, I can't remember which defender was facing DP, but I know for sure that first, DP tried to pass the ball, it hit a defender, bounced upwards, while it was going down he bicycled it.
1. No it is, I didn't mean to make it sound like it wasn't. I'd mentioned earlier that Bayern's games were of the big games this season. Check back if u want.

2. True, that's what happened. The defenders were Gattusso and Nesta, but I don't see the point?
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
++ [ originally posted by kthx ] ++


I don't think you blame Trezeguet for not being one of our best players this season, mainly because he was injured.

That same logic should apply to Del Piero of last season, when he was injured not once, not twice, but three times!

And in 2001-2, he was also one of the best players.
We were discussing wages here, how much is Trezeguet's salary compared to Del Piero's. Read, understand what the adults are talking about, think then reply.
 

ebraheej

Senior Member
Jul 16, 2002
589
And why does everyone all of the sudden care so much about Juve's finances, as if DP's wage would get the club bankrupt or something. To be honest he earned it with all the things he done for the club, and the things he still does.

I also believe that DP will get a paycut in the near future, the same way he did a year or two before.
 

kthx

Junior Member
Mar 26, 2005
115
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Their problem is they are getting raped in this discussion and they know it. You get rather flustered when you are arguing a point you know yourself is actually wrong and continue to do so until someone proves you wrong. Once that happens the insults start flying.
I'm sorry Andy, but I don't know who you're talking about here. I cerainly am not getting raped in this discussion, and I certainly don't think my points are wrong.

Some people exaggerate, true. But that doesn't mean the points made are any less meaningful and significant.
 

ebraheej

Senior Member
Jul 16, 2002
589
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Their problem is they are getting raped in this discussion and they know it. You get rather flustered when you are arguing a point you know yourself is actually wrong and continue to do so until someone proves you wrong. Once that happens the insults start flying.
Nobody is getting raped:groan:
 

kthx

Junior Member
Mar 26, 2005
115
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++



Do you have inside information concering this claim you just made?
I watch the games, and that's what I see. I didn't make any claims, it was just an observation. Unlike you, I do realise this is an opinion, and not a fact.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
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I watch the games, and that's what I see. I didn't make any claims, it was just an observation. Unlike you, I do realise this is an opinion, and not a fact.
Since you like to seperate facts from opinions, you should have pointed out that this was your own observation and opinion.
 

Romano

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May 22, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++


I can actually imagine them masturbate every time DP touches the ball...

Oh look DP just managed to turn around with the ball *vertical hand motions*
you juventus FAN or juventus GAY?
i like dp just as i like zlatan but i cant understaind why dp is always the black sheep.
i dont say that we all have to critisize zlatan now, but we dont have to critisize dp neither...
we won the scudetto does it matter how?
we got a 7 point scudetto lead and you still complaining about everything...
i also dont say dp was our best player this season, but i missed the thing called ''praise'' when he played so well in 02/03
its allways about critisize thats a shame for a club as juve...
all the players are the same so why always critisize ONE
 

kthx

Junior Member
Mar 26, 2005
115
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


We were discussing wages here, how much is Trezeguet's salary compared to Del Piero's. Read, understand what the adults are talking about, think then reply.
I don't understand the reason behind your patronizing attitude, I thought this was a 'discussion room' and we were having a free discussion?

I know what you were talking about. I don't see how what I said was irrelevant.

Find one thing about wages in the paragraph I quoted in that post.

Del Piero makes more than anyone else on the team, and he deserves every bit of that. Why? Because he sells shirts, he has the biggest fan base, and he's still a very important player at the club. People like you would say how a lot of people supporting Juventus would actually leave if Del Piero leaves, so you know how important he is for attracting fans. That's what Juve wants afterall, more fans= more marketing=more money.
 

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