Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (83 Viewers)

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
++ [ originally posted by Romano ] ++


so whats the difference?
the ONLY thing that you do is critizise you make the dp-zlatan even worse then britney-christina affaire...
dp doesnt give a fck about you so why would you give a fck about him
AND dp is not juve material he came from another club and he also didnt started as a youngster in juve
so thats point one.
point to : free to critisize whoever you want.... but you just underlining how stupid you are if you critisize a player who's played well this season
Learn what Juve material means then come back and talk with me.
 

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ebraheej

Senior Member
Jul 16, 2002
589
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++

I have a question for you...
Why is he given so much credit for the assisst he did against Milan and he is given the most credit for his goal against Bayern. Why is Zlatan not given credit for the goal against Bayern?
Why is it said that if DP was not in the right place, we wouldn't have scored the gaol while the assisst agasint Milan was pure magic?
Why is it that everytime one says that Del Piero was not the best player in the team you (not you personally, the blinded people I mean) will have to say that Ibrahimovic was not the best?
Why is it everytime DP is critisized, you have to critisize Zlatan?
Why when one says that Del Piero was subbed for a reason, you have to say that Zlatan should have been also subbed?

Trust me, there is no competition between Zlatan and Del Piero on the armband, Del Piero is the captain and he will stay the captain until he resigns or leaves the club.
To answer your questions
1- I give them both the credit for they deserve on both occasions. DP made a wonderful cross and Trez scored. Zlatan magnificantly dribbled passed the two defenders that were marking him and took a shot that was parried in DPs Direction. The Milan goal was DPs goal, and the Bayern's goal was Zlatan's goal.

2- Because thats the truth, if DP wasnt at the right place we wouldnt have scored that goal, and a defender would have cleared it. Zlatan did a great job but all of his hard work would be forgotten hadnt DP scored the goal. The same applies for the goal against Milan it was pure class and magic, but all would be forgotten if it wasnt for trez.

3- I dont know, I dont do this anyways. ;)

4- Again whoever does this is wrong, unless they have a good point, or a debatable one.

5- Because sometimes DP is subbed unfairly, he plays a game very well, creates chances, and it seems that he regained his form and confidence. While at the same time Zlatan already is on form and has great confidence, so it will do less harm to the player to be substituted. But other than that I believe that the coach has right to do what ever he thinks is right.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
++ [ originally posted by ebraheej ] ++


To answer your questions
1- I give them both the credit for they deserve on both occasions. DP made a wonderful cross and Trez scored. Zlatan magnificantly dribbled passed the two defenders that were marking him and took a shot that was parried in DPs Direction. The Milan goal was DPs goal, and the Bayern's goal was Zlatan's goal.

2- Because thats the truth, if DP wasnt at the right place we wouldnt have scored that goal, and a defender would have cleared it. Zlatan did a great job but all of his hard work would be forgotten hadnt DP scored the goal. The same applies for the goal against Milan it was pure class and magic, but all would be forgotten if it wasnt for trez.

3- I dont know, I dont do this anyways. ;)

4- Again whoever does this is wrong, unless they have a good point, or a debatable one.

5- Because sometimes DP is subbed unfairly, he plays a game very well, creates chances, and it seems that he regained his form and confidence. While at the same time Zlatan already is on form and has great confidence, so it will do less harm to the player to be substituted. But other than that I believe that the coach has right to do what ever he thinks is right.

You are the only one other than Stuart among the DP lovers who has this point of view.
 

Romano

Senior Member
May 22, 2004
1,093
First of all, I DO NOT CRITISIZE IBRAHIMOVIC
Second, its just that we're a community from a worldclub and then some guys in here think they can steal the show by always making Del Piero the black sheep.
Third, I also wouldn't accept it if Zlatan was the black sheep, I'll responded the same way as I do for Del Piero
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++
That's silly to say we want to steal the show just cos we're criticizing the performance of our most hyped player.

He will call you stupid, don't try to squeeze him in the corner.
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
++ [ originally posted by DelpieroForLife ] ++
It always begins this way, critisizing his leadirship ability and describing him as choker until we end up arguing if he is good Penalty taker or not...

TBH, there are much better leaders already in the club. Nedved, Thuram, Cannavaro, Buffon, Zambrotta...


++ [ originally posted by Romano ] ++


because you ALLWAYS critise del piero and we get freaked out after a while because its allways del pieros fault doesnt matter what happens.
if cassano doesnt come next season, yea, its del pieros fault !
if cannavaro gets injured : its del pieros fault !
its allways del pieros fault dont you understaind that we as dp fans get freaked out :confused:

Aaaah, here we are. If you are DP fans go to the forum on his official website, this is a Juventus fan forum.
 

ebraheej

Senior Member
Jul 16, 2002
589
But you must admit he had a good season, 16 goals in all competitions is good. OK Cannavaro, Emerson, Camorenasi, Thuram, and Probably Zlatan were all better. But he's right after them.

D
 

Zizou

Senior Member
Apr 21, 2003
3,965
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++



Not good enough, you are interrupting their orgasms by critisizing him :D
I can actually imagine them masturbate every time DP touches the ball...

Oh look DP just managed to turn around with the ball *vertical hand motions*
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
++ [ originally posted by ebraheej ] ++
But you must admit he had a good season, 16 goals in all competitions is good. OK Cannavaro, Emerson, Camorenasi, Thuram, and Probably Zlatan were all better. But he's right after them.

D

You have mentioned a very healthy thing here. I really like it a lot, but this brings up another issue to be discussed.

Being our 6th best player this season, does he deserve this exaggerated salary?
 

kthx

Junior Member
Mar 26, 2005
115
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++

I have a question for you...
1.Why is he given so much credit for the assisst he did against Milan and he is given the most credit for his goal against Bayern. Why is Zlatan not given credit for the goal against Bayern?Why is it said that if DP was not in the right place, we wouldn't have scored the gaol while the assisst agasint Milan was pure magic?
2.Why is it that everytime one says that Del Piero was not the best player in the team you (not you personally, the blinded people I mean) will have to say that Ibrahimovic was not the best?
3.Why is it everytime DP is critisized, you have to critisize Zlatan?
4.Why when one says that Del Piero was subbed for a reason, you have to say that Zlatan should have been also subbed?

Trust me, there is no competition between Zlatan and Del Piero on the armband, Del Piero is the captain and he will stay the captain until he resigns or leaves the club.
I can't answer for anyone but myself.

1. Because in the Bayern game, even though Zlatan's penetration was excellent, he did not provide an assist. He put up a shot that Kahn should have easily handled. Del Piero was good enough to be in the right place at the right time, managing to avoid the offside trap. Now it was just a tap in, but if you consider it closely, he really wasn't doing what he's good at. Taps like these were Trezeguet's job, but Del Piero was able to adapt in order to accomodate Zlatan more than Zlatan did to accomodate Alex.

Milan's assist was not only great and came in a big match...but was also intended. He wasn't going for goal, it was a pure assist.

2. I don't say that and I don't argue like that, so I can't really answer that.

3. Again, I don't do that. But when comparisons arise, I compare.

4. This I say and it makes perfect sense. Saying Capello is fair, and then seeing him sub Del Piero no matter how he's performing, in most cases that is, is contradictory. Zlatan deserved to be subbed on more than one occasion but he was given the chance to stay over and over again. It's not fair, certainly for a player like del Piero. I, for one, would love to see Del Piero- Trezeguet playing again for some time, we were only given the chance to see that 2 or 3 times this season, and mainly either because Zlatan was rested or banned. They produced magic against Milan, and I'm sure they can produce more if given the chance. But Zlatan has to always play...no matter how we're performing, no matter if the game is important or not, no matter what happens.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,127
++ [ originally posted by DelpieroForLife ] ++


If we had in our current squad a young talent like the 19 year DP then it might be considerable, but I don't see Zlatan as a direct replacment for DP, I don't think that they belong to the same categorey...
Well that just shows your incredible bias quite frankly.
 

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