Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (89 Viewers)

Dec 26, 2004
10,656
++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++


1998-99? Wrong ;) In that season he only scored one goal before getting injured, and quite frankly he was shit. I remember we played the first match of the season at home against Lecce if I'm not mistaken, and DP and Tacchinardi were taken off some mintues before the end and they were both whistled off the pitch. Then in injury time Conte (I think) scored the winner...now that was a captain! Giving his heart out and showing all that fighting spirit and character...something which DP sadly lacks and that is why he will never be back to his best.
Sorry mate I admit .... 1996-1997 and 1997-1998 was DP best seasons..
 

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olkiller

Senior Member
Sep 9, 2002
748
++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
I would definitely argue Del Piero was excellent in 2001-2002 and 2002-2003. But since then.. :frown:
Well, first off Martin, I have to congratulate you because you are the first one to recognise Del Piero was excellent, whereas most people (Andy & Co) claim he has been off-form since 1998 (!) and that he failed to shine again for seven years, which is totally false, as everyone knows he was a key figure in our latest trophies and exploits.
Del Piero hasn't played well in 2003/2004, he was often injured and wasn't fit enough to help us overcome our problems.
Now we are in 2005. He played half the matches Zlatan Ibrahimovic has, and scored 9 goals. He had some great moves in several recent games (Fiorentina, Bologna) suggesting he was on his way back to glory. Now he is getting benched by Capello. People judge him according to his 2003/2004 performances and say he's finished. I do not think so. Neither does Juventus (hopefully). By the past, Del Piero took advantage of Lippi's support, which is quite normal as Lippi is the coach who revealed him and helped him reach his peak. Now he is struggling against Capello's doubts and biased decisions. as surprising as this may sound from a DP thoroughgoing supporter, doubting Del Piero is legitimate even if Del Piero has performed rather well this season. Much as I may despise Capello right now, he is the coach and is right as long as Juventus wins. His job is to get the 3 points.
Now the original question of this thread, and generally the recurrent argument in this forum, is whether Del Piero is declining. It can't be answered
now. If Del Piero is still the player I loved and still love, he will give his all to rule the game again, no matter what. Now it really is up to him, and if he makes his way out of this rough patch, I hope the fools and haters who bashed so often and said his career was definitely over will have the decency to shut up for good over the Del Piero issue.
Forza Alessandro Forza Juventus.
 
Dec 26, 2004
10,656
++ [ originally posted by olkiller ] ++


Well, first off Martin, I have to congratulate you because you are the first one to recognise Del Piero was excellent, whereas most people (Andy & Co) claim he has been off-form since 1998 (!) and that he failed to shine again for seven years, which is totally false, as everyone knows he was a key figure in our latest trophies and exploits.
Del Piero hasn't played well in 2003/2004, he was often injured and wasn't fit enough to help us overcome our problems.
Now we are in 2005. He played half the matches Zlatan Ibrahimovic has, and scored 9 goals. He had some great moves in several recent games (Fiorentina, Bologna) suggesting he was on his way back to glory. Now he is getting benched by Capello. People judge him according to his 2003/2004 performances and say he's finished. I do not think so. Neither does Juventus (hopefully). By the past, Del Piero took advantage of Lippi's support, which is quite normal as Lippi is the coach who revealed him and helped him reach his peak. Now he is struggling against Capello's doubts and biased decisions. as surprising as this may sound from a DP thoroughgoing supporter, doubting Del Piero is legitimate even if Del Piero has performed rather well this season. Much as I may despise Capello right now, he is the coach and is right as long as Juventus wins. His job is to get the 3 points.
Now the original question of this thread, and generally the recurrent argument in this forum, is whether Del Piero is declining. It can't be answered
now. If Del Piero is still the player I loved and still love, he will give his all to rule the game again, no matter what. Now it really is up to him, and if he makes his way out of this rough patch, I hope the fools and haters who bashed so often and said his career was definitely over will have the decency to shut up for good over the Del Piero issue.
Forza Alessandro Forza Juventus.
I like this part but sooner or later many Zalatnist will attack u and tell u that u r not a Juve fan
 

Nicole

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2004
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Can you honestly say that Del Piero in the years 2001-2003 (since you've said it was his best years) that he was better then any other player Juve could of brought, was he one of the best in the world, and the kind of player who would of made Juve 1/2 the team (attacking-wise) that they were if he was to get injured? I dont think so!
 

olkiller

Senior Member
Sep 9, 2002
748
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
Can you honestly say that Del Piero in the years 2001-2003 (since you've said it was his best years) that he was better then any other player Juve could of brought, was he one of the best in the world, and the kind of player who would of made Juve 1/2 the team (attacking-wise) that they were if he was to get injured? I dont think so!
In case you haven't watched many Juve games, Del Piero scored 50 goals in these two seasons and provided Trezeguet with dozens of assists. If it wasn't for his injury in the middle of 2002-2003 season, he would have won the golden ball, as everyone was pointing out in Italy. Of course, Nedved was decisive too, as his technical and physical abilities led the team to excellent results despite Del Piero's absence. But when you WATCH the videos of those two seasons, ain't no going wrong with it, it is damn impressive, just remember the legendary gift to L'Avoccato Gianni Agnelli (aerian backheel), the late equalizer against Parma, the backheel ag. our archrivals Torino, The TWO SCUDETTO-GOALS (The sooner against Udinese and above all the latter, a marvelous shot ag. Brescia which was also his 100th goal in Serie A with juve), not to mention his masterpiece ag. Real Madrid..And many more. Just watch the videos please, as only the facts count.
But that's the past, and the past is dead. Now Del Piero must get back to his glory and I'm confident he will, proving the haters and the liars wrong once more....
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
Can you honestly say that Del Piero in the years 2001-2003 (since you've said it was his best years) that he was better then any other player Juve could of brought, was he one of the best in the world, and the kind of player who would of made Juve 1/2 the team (attacking-wise) that they were if he was to get injured? I dont think so!
Del Piero's performances in 2001-2002 were just as good as those of Zlatan Ibrahimovic in 2004 while he was excellent in 2002-2003. He scored over 40 goals in that period and was an integral part of Scudetti numbers 26 and 27. Did you forget the three goals he scored against Roma (in two meetings) in 02-03? He actually did well against big teams that season, putting in stellar performances against Roma, Inter, Milan and Real. His strike rate in Serie A spoke for itself, 16 goals in 24 games. He suffered two long injury lay-offs that same year, but still came fourth in the goalscoring table. Hearing people say that DP hasn't done anything for Juve since 98 ticks me off.
 

Nicole

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2004
7,561
I didnt, so you know and I have never not said it was true, I am not a fan of Juve, and I dont watch many Juve games, all I can do is have an opinion of Del Piero in the games I have seen him in, most recently was a few times this season, and in the Euro2004, which he was extremely ineffective, and I believe had Cassano of played instead of DP we wouldnt of gotten knocked out, for example, we'd of beat Sweden. But, like someone said it is the past, and for a team like Juve they need players on top of there game, I dont believe Del Piero can return to that form he showed pre-98 (I say pre-98, because that was the last time I saw DP actually play very well consistently).
 
Dec 26, 2004
10,656
++ [ originally posted by olkiller ] ++


In case you haven't watched many Juve games, Del Piero scored 50 goals in these two seasons and provided Trezeguet with dozens of assists. If it wasn't for his injury in the middle of 2002-2003 season, he would have won the golden ball, as everyone was pointing out in Italy. Of course, Nedved was decisive too, as his technical and physical abilities led the team to excellent results despite Del Piero's absence. But when you WATCH the videos of those two seasons, ain't no going wrong with it, it is damn impressive, just remember the legendary gift to L'Avoccato Gianni Agnelli (aerian backheel), the late equalizer against Parma, the backheel ag. our archrivals Torino, The TWO SCUDETTO-GOALS (The sooner against Udinese and above all the latter, a marvelous shot ag. Brescia which was also his 100th goal in Serie A with juve), not to mention his masterpiece ag. Real Madrid..And many more. Just watch the videos please, as only the facts count.
But that's the past, and the past is dead. Now Del Piero must get back to his glory and I'm confident he will, proving the haters and the liars wrong once more....
We all hope so for the good of him, Juve...
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
++ [ originally posted by olkiller ] ++


Well, first off Martin, I have to congratulate you because you are the first one to recognise Del Piero was excellent, whereas most people (Andy & Co) claim he has been off-form since 1998 (!) and that he failed to shine again for seven years, which is totally false, as everyone knows he was a key figure in our latest trophies and exploits.
Del Piero hasn't played well in 2003/2004, he was often injured and wasn't fit enough to help us overcome our problems.
Now we are in 2005. He played half the matches Zlatan Ibrahimovic has, and scored 9 goals. He had some great moves in several recent games (Fiorentina, Bologna) suggesting he was on his way back to glory. Now he is getting benched by Capello. People judge him according to his 2003/2004 performances and say he's finished. I do not think so. Neither does Juventus (hopefully). By the past, Del Piero took advantage of Lippi's support, which is quite normal as Lippi is the coach who revealed him and helped him reach his peak. Now he is struggling against Capello's doubts and biased decisions. as surprising as this may sound from a DP thoroughgoing supporter, doubting Del Piero is legitimate even if Del Piero has performed rather well this season. Much as I may despise Capello right now, he is the coach and is right as long as Juventus wins. His job is to get the 3 points.
Now the original question of this thread, and generally the recurrent argument in this forum, is whether Del Piero is declining. It can't be answered
now. If Del Piero is still the player I loved and still love, he will give his all to rule the game again, no matter what. Now it really is up to him, and if he makes his way out of this rough patch, I hope the fools and haters who bashed so often and said his career was definitely over will have the decency to shut up for good over the Del Piero issue.
Forza Alessandro Forza Juventus.
Well siad:)
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
++ [ originally posted by Bürke ] ++
Yo Azzurri7, why hate Capello?

I don't understand the rest of your sig.
It's not because of Lippi as Donny boy just stated...

It's because of the way he's treating Dp:)...

My sig says that the fans in delle alpi a group of them were asking Capello to get out and bring back Lippi...not bad idea..is it? and they were calling capello to let Dp play some part of the game...
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
Can you honestly say that Del Piero in the years 2001-2003 (since you've said it was his best years) that he was better then any other player Juve could of brought, was he one of the best in the world, and the kind of player who would of made Juve 1/2 the team (attacking-wise) that they were if he was to get injured? I dont think so!
2001 till 2003 was great, some deny that, because of the hate they got for the Captain...but no one can deny that he has scored over 45 goals helping Juve to clinch the scudetto 26 and 27:)....2004 was a bad year for him due to the several injuries he had ( Deportivo in CL was one of them ).....
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


Del Piero's performances in 2001-2002 were just as good as those of Zlatan Ibrahimovic in 2004 while he was excellent in 2002-2003. He scored over 40 goals in that period and was an integral part of Scudetti numbers 26 and 27. Did you forget the three goals he scored against Roma (in two meetings) in 02-03? He actually did well against big teams that season, putting in stellar performances against Roma, Inter, Milan and Real. His strike rate in Serie A spoke for itself, 16 goals in 24 games. He suffered two long injury lay-offs that same year, but still came fourth in the goalscoring table. Hearing people say that DP hasn't done anything for Juve since 98 ticks me off.
Actually third ( if am not mistaken )...

Anyhow he suffered lot of injuries but still he helped the team to win the league and finishing 2nd in CL:)....
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Juve renew Del Piero faith Tuesday 25 January, 2005

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Juventus have told admirers of Alessandro Del Piero to forget about any hopes they have of signing him.

"He is a champion and I’m sure that he will remain here with us," director general Luciano Moggi told the "Processo di Biscardi" TV show.

"At this moment in time there are other players who are in better form but he is a first team regular and he will soon be doing the things he can."

Del Piero’s future has been cast in doubt given his difficult relationship with boss Fabio Capello.

The tactician doesn’t seem convinced by the player and after continually substituting him, the captain has been dropped from the side for the last two League games.

That has led to speculation of a summer move, with his agent insisting that Chelsea, Real Madrid and Manchester United are all keen.

"Evidently clubs are contacting his agent to see whether a move is possible," added Moggi.

"But that is only because they know that we won’t sell him. Del Piero will definitely remain here."

Juventus managing director Antonio Giraudo also backed the No 10, who is contracted to the Delle Alpi outfit until 2008, but warned him to improve.

"Del Piero is a champion but when you are at a club like Juventus you can’t live on the past," he stated.

"Capello currently has other ideas but let us not forget that the likes of Andriy Shevchenko and Christian Vieri both spent time on the bench a few years ago."

:)...
 

olkiller

Senior Member
Sep 9, 2002
748
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
I didnt, so you know and I have never not said it was true, I am not a fan of Juve, and I dont watch many Juve games, all I can do is have an opinion of Del Piero in the games I have seen him in, most recently was a few times this season, and in the Euro2004, which he was extremely ineffective, and I believe had Cassano of played instead of DP we wouldnt of gotten knocked out, for example, we'd of beat Sweden. But, like someone said it is the past, and for a team like Juve they need players on top of there game, I dont believe Del Piero can return to that form he showed pre-98 (I say pre-98, because that was the last time I saw DP actually play very well consistently).
Dear Nicole, Cassano played almost the whole sweden match in case u were elsewhere then...and Del Piero was quite good in that match combining well with the same Cassano. Italy drew against sweden because of Trap's tactics..U don't seem to follow soccer very often and formulate some strange prejudices just like most of DP haters who hate him just because he's the crowd's favourite..But I'm cool with it :D
 
Dec 26, 2004
10,656
++ [ originally posted by olkiller ] ++


Dear Nicole, Cassano played almost the whole sweden match in case u were elsewhere then ...and Del Piero was quite good in that match combining well with the same Cassano. Italy drew against sweden because of Trap's tactics..U don't seem to follow soccer very often and formulate some strange prejudices just like most of DP haters who hate him just because he's the crowd's favourite..But I'm cool with it :D


:rofl:
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
++ [ originally posted by olkiller ] ++


Dear Nicole, Cassano played almost the whole sweden match in case u were elsewhere then...and Del Piero was quite good in that match combining well with the same Cassano. Italy drew against sweden because of Trap's tactics..U don't seem to follow soccer very often and formulate some strange prejudices just like most of DP haters who hate him just because he's the crowd's favourite..But I'm cool with it :D
:thumb:
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
++ [ originally posted by DelpieroForLife ] ++
I'm waiting for somone to say I'm not a Juve fan because I cheer for the team captin :D
you ar not a Juve fan bikoz you tsheer for tha captin



P.S. all spelling mistakes are intentional :D
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,107
++ [ originally posted by olkiller ] ++


Well, first off Martin, I have to congratulate you because you are the first one to recognise Del Piero was excellent, whereas most people (Andy & Co) claim he has been off-form since 1998 (!) and that he failed to shine again for seven years, which is totally false, as everyone knows he was a key figure in our latest trophies and exploits.
Get your facts straight, I never said anything of the sort. I have always maintained that DP has been off form since 2003, and that the form he lost was not even near the pre-1998 form.
 

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