Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (144 Viewers)

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
No, but it's simple, you already told me that you hold Del Piero's well being over Juventus', while I am on the opposite side. What can we possibly discuss? The guy is a cancer to the team, but we'll never agree, and for you a few random good free kicks is enough to keep him around and keep wanking over him.
But what exactly would Alex benefit from a bad Juve team with which he can't win shit? This is not what we are talking about, I solely mean you claiming that we sold Diego because Ale must have started games. So just lets keep it going. Do you think Del Neri was forced to give up on Diego or it was both the coach's and the board's decision?
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,998
He runs the locker room, which some would say is almost the same thing.
They will never accept that. In the end they can't prove he doesn't, we can't prove he does. We simply have our own opinion. I don't give a fuck if anyone thinks my opinion is retarded. I will keep repeating it until he retires. People should live with that.
 

BillyG

Caribbean Ultra
Nov 25, 2006
4,151
:agree:

its a sad day when some fans turn on perhaps the best ever juventus player, definitely up there.
no one is arguing his status or importance to the team in the PAST. We have to look at the present. & presently other than the odd bit of magic here (Sturm Graz) and there he adds nothing positive to the team. Do you REALLY expect him to deliver twice a week?

Also, if he wasn't the reason Diego was sold, then why did DN not choose to sub in Martinez for him in stead of Krasic when he was clearly struggling and hampering the teams forward play with his persistent ball hogging. HE is becoming like Henry in his final year at Arsenal.
 

CAPITANO

58 ' SUPER SIC ' 58
Jul 12, 2006
18,560
next week when he scores the winner :shifty: everyone will be praising him,

he can't play 90 mins effectively anymore, he should only be starting 1 game a week (we had no other options today tho), Del Neri fuckd up on Thurs by playing him the full 90 for no reason, theres no point playing with fast wingers when the time the ball gets to them its to late and its going to be a long and painful season unless we have someone like DP to play when he's not playing
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Sorry Hoori, but it's clear as day that it is the reason! Then how do u explain the sale of Diego? A player who had put Ale on the bench during pre-season, who the coach was clearly counting on to bring crativity to the team is just miraculously sold within a matter of days?
So you think the board and the coach were forced to sell Diego because of Ale? You mean it was Ale who had a saying in that, right?

Now tell me, couldn't have they just play Ale ahead of Diego? Couldn't have they just fielded the team with another formation in which both could play?
 

VicCB

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2010
554
But what exactly would Alex benefit from a bad Juve team with which he can't win shit? This is not what we are talking about, I solely mean you claiming that we sold Diego because Ale must have started games. So just lets keep it going. Do you think Del Neri was forced to give up on Diego or it was both the coach's and the board's decision?
I don't buy that BS that Del Piero was happy being a super sub, the guy wants to play all the fucking time, he's had a history of being problematic to deal with when not being an indisputable starter.

He runs the locker room and it's no question that he'll become a Juventus director or have a big place within the organization when he retires, so how is it far fetched to assume he has a huge influence on what decisions are taken? So there's a need to keep Del Piero happy, we're not dealing with the old Triade here that had more balls.

Del Neri gave clear signals that he needed Diego for the system to work, he stated he gave us the quality WE OTHERWISE lack. Why would Marotta sell Diego then? What is the only REASONABLE explanation?
 

BillyG

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Nov 25, 2006
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So you think the board and the coach were forced to sell Diego because of Ale? You mean it was Ale who had a saying in that, right?

Now tell me, couldn't have they just play Ale ahead of Diego? Couldn't have they just fielded the team with another formation in which both could play?
They were not forced, but that is not to say Ale's words have no weight at Juve. His presence alone in itself is an obstruction just like Henry at Arsenal & Raul at RM. If they wanted that to happen they would have hired a more tactically flexible cocah!

I will say again, both Diego & DN said the decision was made above the head of DN. He had no say in the matter as he had already come out publicy to confirm that he wanted Diego to stay and that he was impressed that he was impressed with the way he was playing. If DN wanted Deigo sold he would not have been starting him every game would he?
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
They were not forced, but that is not to say Ale's words have no weight at Juve. His presence alone in itself is an obstruction just like Henry at Arsenal & Raul at RM. If they wanted that to happen they would have hired a more tactically flexible cocah!

I will say again, both Diego & DN said the decision was made above the head of DN. He had no say in the matter as he had already come out publicy to confirm that he wanted Diego to stay and that he was impressed that he was impressed with the way he was playing. If DN wanted Deigo sold he would not have been starting him every game would he?
You didn't answer my question, why didn't they put the force on Del Neri to only play Ale? Why didn't they ask him to play with another formation?
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Del Neri gave clear signals that he needed Diego for the system to work, he stated he gave us the quality WE OTHERWISE lack. Why would Marotta sell Diego then? What is the only REASONABLE explanation?
Del Neri was forced to sell Diego then, is that what you mean? Why wasn't he forced to just play Ale ahead of Diego instead? Why wasn't he forced to start the games with another formation? And why the board didn't sell Diego when the offer was 17m? He was going to take Ale spot's anyway, so tell me why did the board wait?
 

BillyG

Caribbean Ultra
Nov 25, 2006
4,151
You didn't answer my question, why didn't they put the force on Del Neri to only play Ale? Why didn't they ask him to play with another formation?
I knew you would say that! that is always the answer people here use when they don't have a response. Who say's they didn't ask DN to play hime more?


If they wanted that to happen they would have hired a more tactically flexible cocah!
 

C4ISR

Senior Member
Dec 18, 2005
2,362
I became a Juventus fan because of him, but even I realize his time is up. I love the man but it's time to face reality. I thought this was obvious last season, but apparently some people still believe he should be our 1st choice in attack.

Physically, he can't keep up with today's football. He is too slow to reach the end of any through ball before the opposition, and to slow to peel away from most defenders. He doesn't have the legs to play 90 min, and other than winning free kicks and delivering from set pieces, he is a hindrance to our play.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
I knew you would say that! that is always the answer people here use when they don't have a response. Who say's they didn't ask DN to play hime more?
With a more tactically flexible coach, Ale and Diego could have played together, don't you think?

Oh and why should I be responsible for the board's decision. I know as much as you do. The only difference is that I'm not living with illusions. I don't know why they sold Diego but to say that he was sold only to make space for Ale is unbelievably stupid.
 

VicCB

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2010
554
Del Neri was forced to sell Diego then, is that what you mean? Why wasn't he forced to just play Ale ahead of Diego instead? Why wasn't he forced to start the games with another formation? And why the board didn't sell Diego when the offer was 17m? He was going to take Ale spot's anyway, so tell me why did the board wait?
The board waited because they wanted to buy Dzeko over Krasic and were hoping to include Diego in the deal. Weren't you following the transfer season? And given that we sold him for a shitty 15 million, if there was a higher offer from Wolfsburg we would have accepted it.

Del Neri is a mediocre tactician, but he probably won't accept the directors telling him who to play or not. It doesn't matter, he won't be around for long, but Del Piero is something else, he'll be part of the organization absolutely after he's gone, hence the move was done.

Anyway, let's explore your side of the argument, why was Diego sold if not to keep Del Piero happy? Was 15 million such a HUGE sum?
 
Sep 2, 2004
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Last season with Giovinco and Diego in 4-2-3-1, we're getting great results and winning while Del Piero is injured. He comes back against Bordeaux and starts ahead of Giovinco in 4-2-3-1 and we start losing and havent been the same since. That is nothing but the truth.
 

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