Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (88 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by kthx ] ++
Capello is a mercenary, next year he could be coaching Real for all you know.

He's a mercenary who we are lucky to have as a coach, especially after the great Lippi.

 

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[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by kthx ] ++


Actually, the entire basis for your arguments, and the arguments of your fellow bashers, depends on ignoring facts.

-Fact: Del Piero is Juve's top scorer this season.

-Your Opinion: He has been poor overall.

Where did you read me saying that he was pool overall to claim it was MY opinion.

-My reply on your fact: I do not believe in numbers and the performance on the pitch is what I look at.

++ [ originally posted by kthx ] ++
-Fact: He's the most decisive player in Serie A, his goals got us more points than Zlatan's.

-Opinion: He doesn't deserve to start at Juve.

It is good you changed the Your Opinion to Opinion because it was not MY opinion here either.

-My reply on your fact: Same as the previous one.

++ [ originally posted by kthx ] ++
-Fact: His marketing power is second to none at Juve, the board knows that and that's why they give him such a big contract.

-Opinion: I think Juve have drained his marketing ability over the past 10 years.

-Fact, he is overpaid for what he gives as a player. Why do I care? Because his salary is enough to be paid for two players of his calibre.

++ [ originally posted by kthx ] ++
-Fact: He has showed up in various big games this season... (not going to mention the previous seasons, because I don't believe that there is even an argument) ... examples include Liverpool (scored a perfectly legitimate goal, did not deserve substitution), Milan (assist of the season, MoM performance), Bayern Munich (scored), Ajax (was one of our best players going forward), Roma (scored in both legs).

-Opinion: He's a choker in big games.

Those are just 5 games you mentioned, I think Juventus played a whole lot more.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


So I'am the biased one here?? Why? because I said it's not fair to sub Dp when Zlatan is not being Sub?

Or Capello is the biased one for keeping Zlatan on the field the entire game even If he's not doing well.

I guess the 2nd is the biased one not Me.

I am saying you are biased because you simply refuse to understand why is Del Piero being subbed and not Zlatan. I told you why but you decided again to ignore it and bring in Capello again and say he is biased.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


Camoranesi is the one with the most assists Sir.

Still that doesn't change the fact that Zlatan is one of the most selfish players, I'am pretty his stats could had been much better if he didn't try to over-take 21 players on the field...We all know he's Selfish Z, Even Capello knows that.

We are talking about forwards here and Zlatan has the most assists among them. It is obvious that a midfielder can have more assists than a forward, it is their job to feed afterall. Luckily for us, we have Zlatan who have been feeding and scoring, holding the ball and passing the ball, winning air balls and receiving log balls and all that was crystal clear even with hs selfishness and dribling passiion.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by giovanotti ] ++
ibrahim is a kind of player who can forexample go to real for the illustrious 70 mil and he will forget that he played for us.
But I'm sure that wherever he goes ,Del Piero will have special feeling for Juve.
That is the thing witch separates the player from a mercenary.

I'd rather have a new 'mercenary' every year that will give me a trophy than a statue or symbol that will remember me wherever he goes.

I did not mind the 70 mil that Zidane brought us when he moved to Real, even if he forgot that he played for us.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++
Hopefully The Captain can still keep up the good Job, and Lift the CL trophy next year...

I really hope that too

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by kthx ] ++
I didn't mean it that way, I meant Juve is Del Piero's team and club before it's any of the other players'.

He's the club captain and legend, he's a veteran of 12 years!

Capello is a mercenary, next year he could be coaching Real for all you know.

Read my reply about mercenaries, just a couple of replies above that.

 

[JCK]

I am fed up with this thread, every now and then I say let us make a mature discussion just to end up being called a basher, a hater and I don't know what else from a bunch of people who are blinded by a player refusing to see elsewhere.

On top of that, putting the player above the manager, the coach and even the badge if they dare.

 

[ebraheej]

I hate it when people look at football like its business in the first place. Its so sad.

 

[JCK]

We all do, this is how the TV and the organizations want it

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

++ [ originally posted by ebraheej ] ++
I hate it when people look at football like its business in the first place. Its so sad.

that reality for you. grow up.

jeeks you are my new best friend

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++
I am fed up with this thread, every now and then I say let us make a mature discussion just to end up being called a basher, a hater and I don't know what else from a bunch of people who are blinded by a player refusing to see elsewhere.

On top of that, putting the player above the manager, the coach and even the badge if they dare.

I'll always Put Dp infront of any coach, but not the Club.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


I am saying you are biased because you simply refuse to understand why is Del Piero being subbed and not Zlatan. I told you why but you decided again to ignore it and bring in Capello again and say he is biased.

Again I repeat, I understand why Dp should be Sub, and am with you, Del Piero should be benched when he's not doing good, but the same has to go with Zlatan. Got it?

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

thats because you are a moron. you know what you get when you put a player in front of the coach ? roma

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++
once again people how can you say that it was del piero's goals that got us the points and not canavaro's tackles ? zambrotta's runs? emerson's controll of the middle? camo's crosses?

football is a game of eleven players

Reading this post shows that your only looking for a fight here, or either your not wearing your glasses, No-body said Dp is the one to win us the Scudetto, To me It was the whole team as I said, Even Montera is between them.

So I suggest you stop talking on our behalf.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++
thats because you are a moron. you know what you get when you put a player in front of the coach ? roma

Juventus is not Roma...I'll take a player who has given us soo much more than a coach who'll stay 2years maximum and then Leave us, I'll take a player who'll be our Top scorer Soon, I'll take a Player who loves the club more than the Coach, I'll take the Player who has done soo much that we can't reply to him or give him something back.(Fans)

Btw watch your Lang Don

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

people said that del piero was the most influential player. i just said that he was just as influential if not less than emerson, canavaro, camo, zambrotta

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


Juventus is not Roma...I'll take a player who has given us soo much more than a coach who'll stay 2years maximum and then Leave us, I'll take a player who'll be our Top scorer Soon, I'll take a Player who loves the club more than the Coach, I'll take the Player who has done soo much that we can't reply to him or give him something back.(Fans)

Btw watch your Lang Don

juve is not roma because the managment doesnt think like you

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++
people said that del piero was the most influential player. i just said that he was just as influential if not less than emerson, canavaro, camo, zambrotta

By Ratings Ofcoarse Dp is not the mvp, But my point is that the whole team did well this Season, Juventus made the Victory not Canna or Emerson.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



juve is not roma because the managment doesnt think like you

Thanks god.