say what u want about dp here, but we have no right to slate a coach who just won us the league, wots wrong with 442? nothing
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Concerning who can hold the ball more, that is still your opinion and the other was my opinion.
Concerning helping the midfield and defence, it is happened that many times Del Piero was replaced by Zalayeta because of the need of a target man, a tall man in the box, a person who is a receiver. There are times where you need such a person more than a person who is just being an addition in the middle.
No he isn't, gray. He just does it more often. If you watch Zlatan, you'll find that more often than not he tries to hold the ball, and tries to dribble past his marker...and more often than not he ends up losing possession.
Del Piero, on the other hand, often opts to pass and keep the game flowing. If he was asked to hold the ball, I'm pretty sure defenders will only be able to ply it off of him through fouling...again more often than not.
I'm not denying Zlatan's incredible skills, especially for someone of his stature. But still the fact that he showcases them on numerous occasions during the match, usually going for the extremely difficult and sometimes the impossible, doesn't make him a better holder of the ball than Alex, who's much more mature and experienced at doing it.
Del Piero, on the other hand, often opts to pass and keep the game flowing. If he was asked to hold the ball, I'm pretty sure defenders will only be able to ply it off of him through fouling...again more often than not.
I'm not denying Zlatan's incredible skills, especially for someone of his stature. But still the fact that he showcases them on numerous occasions during the match, usually going for the extremely difficult and sometimes the impossible, doesn't make him a better holder of the ball than Alex, who's much more mature and experienced at doing it.
Actually, the entire basis for your arguments, and the arguments of your fellow bashers, depends on ignoring facts.
-Fact: Del Piero is Juve's top scorer this season.
-Your Opinion: He has been poor overall.
-Fact: He's the most decisive player in Serie A, his goals got us more points than Zlatan's.
-Opinion: He doesn't deserve to start at Juve.
-Fact: His marketing power is second to none at Juve, the board knows that and that's why they give him such a big contract.
-Opinion: I think Juve have drained his marketing ability over the past 10 years.
-Fact: He has showed up in various big games this season... (not going to mention the previous seasons, because I don't believe that there is even an argument) ... examples include Liverpool (scored a perfectly legitimate goal, did not deserve substitution), Milan (assist of the season, MoM performance), Bayern Munich (scored), Ajax (was one of our best players going forward), Roma (scored in both legs).
-Opinion: He's a choker in big games.
-Fact: Del Piero is Juve's top scorer this season.
-Your Opinion: He has been poor overall.
-Fact: He's the most decisive player in Serie A, his goals got us more points than Zlatan's.
-Opinion: He doesn't deserve to start at Juve.
-Fact: His marketing power is second to none at Juve, the board knows that and that's why they give him such a big contract.
-Opinion: I think Juve have drained his marketing ability over the past 10 years.
-Fact: He has showed up in various big games this season... (not going to mention the previous seasons, because I don't believe that there is even an argument) ... examples include Liverpool (scored a perfectly legitimate goal, did not deserve substitution), Milan (assist of the season, MoM performance), Bayern Munich (scored), Ajax (was one of our best players going forward), Roma (scored in both legs).
-Opinion: He's a choker in big games.
Milan last season...that's another one of the 'facts'. He was in the stands injured...that's where he was.
Why mention those games? Why not mention Milan of 2 years ago when he basically handed Di Vaio and Thuram 2 goals on a silver platter. Why not mention Real Madrid in the CL semi final? Why not mention Roma? Barcelona in Turin?
Why mention Deportivo two or three years ago? Why not Bayer Leverkusen? Why not mention Newcastle?
Where was Zlatan against Liverpool? Or against Inter? Where was Shevchenko against Juve? Or against PSV? Or against Liverpool? Or against Inter in the early part of the season? Do those games make them chokers?
Just because he wasn't our best player in all of the big matches doesn't make him a choker.
Why mention those games? Why not mention Milan of 2 years ago when he basically handed Di Vaio and Thuram 2 goals on a silver platter. Why not mention Real Madrid in the CL semi final? Why not mention Roma? Barcelona in Turin?
Why mention Deportivo two or three years ago? Why not Bayer Leverkusen? Why not mention Newcastle?
Where was Zlatan against Liverpool? Or against Inter? Where was Shevchenko against Juve? Or against PSV? Or against Liverpool? Or against Inter in the early part of the season? Do those games make them chokers?
Just because he wasn't our best player in all of the big matches doesn't make him a choker.
Ok,but we can put the things like this: remember his counterattack movement and pass for Thuram's goal against milan before 2 years,remeber his goals against inter last season,remember his games against the opponents last season before his injury,his C.L goals and quality not only against real before 2 years, and the final also showed that when it's not going for him it's not going for whole Juve, and when you presume to mentione EURO 2000 remember his goals at the competition and his fantastic performance against Sweden in first round.
As you can watch that in your way,I can also do in mine.
So,maybe Del Piero will leave us (I'll be very sad ) because of the recent treatment, and if it happens some of you guys will be pretty happy, but that only shows how shallow you are,how fast you can forget someone,and this time OUR LEGEND is going to be the forgoten one.
As you can watch that in your way,I can also do in mine.
So,maybe Del Piero will leave us (I'll be very sad ) because of the recent treatment, and if it happens some of you guys will be pretty happy, but that only shows how shallow you are,how fast you can forget someone,and this time OUR LEGEND is going to be the forgoten one.
Yes, I agree sometimes Zlatan knows how to keep the ball away from defenders thats something else, but on the same time, he's one of the most selfish players alongside C.Ronaldo when it comes to Holding the ball.
Maybe you meant he's better then Dp on air, but I didn't see this year better holder than Dp in Juve, Except Camoranesi.
Maybe you meant he's better then Dp on air, but I didn't see this year better holder than Dp in Juve, Except Camoranesi.