Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (188 Viewers)

juvefan10

Junior Member
May 14, 2006
352
c'mon, guys, he only shitted the begining of the season.. and has suddenly become useless after missing penalty and some other good chances..?

last year he was, great, skillfull, leader and now after missing penalty he's a crap?

yes, sure he's fitness is not the same.. but don't judge him this bad..
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
47,928
it's all in his head...he is trying too hard to put in a good performance and it is actually harming his play...the France game was a big hit on his confidence especially being jeered by the pathetic home fans...sure he should have done more but a completely defence-oriented France was always going to be hard to defeat...Ale needs to relax, be calm and take every game as it comes...he will prove ONCE AGAIN that he is a CHAMPION
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,941
First of all how much is Maldini getting paid. Second, he is quite older than Alex don't you think? The difference is, Alex has something to give on the field unlike Maldini who is played mostly to honor him.
According to Gazzetta Maldini is getting 2m Eur while Ale 4.8m euro net. If you add the taxes you'll see that Juve is paying 7.2m eur for Ale's wages every year. The comparisson with Maldini wasn't the most accurate, i agree. I compared him with Maldini only because Rab mentioned the idol, the influence, all time favorite player part.
Ale will be 33 in little over a month. If he signs a 3 year contract without a pay-cut we'll have to pay 7.2x3 for his wages (21.6m eur) and imo it's too much for someone who'll be 33,34,35 during this time.
Don't get me wrong, i'll be pleased if Ale is getting what he wants, he's happy with us and he performs with us. The juventus fan side in me wants that. But if the board thinks it's too much and it may hurt us financially then i believe that Del Piero must accept the pay cut.
 
Feb 7, 2007
808
Although I agree on few things you said there I disagree on the paycut. Especially when the paycut is 30%. He already accepted two in the past.
Lets not kid ourselves, without Del Piero last season we wouldn't have made it to Serie A so easily. We might have made it, but through second or third place. Ofcourse Alex did not do it alone, alot of thanks goes to Buffon as well. But when two or three players really carry the team on their shoulder and never whine (unlike Trezeguet or Camoranesi) they should be respected afterwards.. Remember he is not a bench player yet. He, alone with Trezeguet, are our best forwards..

I am a Del Piero fan, and I am biased towards him. But before I am a Del Piero fan, I am a Juventus fan. I supported Juventus before Del Piero started wearing the Juve Shirt and I am telling you he is still worth every single penny given to him if not more.
you are a real fan of juve with this words you wrote you show that you are a real bianconero... del piero is worth every single penny given to him this is the right expression
 
Feb 7, 2007
808
According to Gazzetta Maldini is getting 2m Eur while Ale 4.8m euro net. If you add the taxes you'll see that Juve is paying 7.2m eur for Ale's wages every year. The comparisson with Maldini wasn't the most accurate, i agree. I compared him with Maldini only because Rab mentioned the idol, the influence, all time favorite player part.
Ale will be 33 in little over a month. If he signs a 3 year contract without a pay-cut we'll have to pay 7.2x3 for his wages (21.6m eur) and imo it's too much for someone who'll be 33,34,35 during this time.
Don't get me wrong, i'll be pleased if Ale is getting what he wants, he's happy with us and he performs with us. The juventus fan side in me wants that. But if the board thinks it's too much and it may hurt us financially then i believe that Del Piero must accept the pay cut.

i disagree... can you imagine how many credits did del piero have brought to juve with all of his achievements ? not only the 219 goals but the whole contribution.. we denoted to serie b he stayed with us he was the first scorer 20 goals ... he contributed buffon treze camo to stay at the club ... he is history when someone says juve he automatically says del piero ... every juve fan or not says the same thing.. he is old i know and i recongize it but he is not finished yet ... he doesnt want to finish his historical carreer like that ..playing on the bench for the whole season. .we all know that he is slow and powerless but he is what he is :del piero alessandro :he has somethins to show ... be aware we all know he can do it he has something special for us
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
According to Gazzetta Maldini is getting 2m Eur while Ale 4.8m euro net. If you add the taxes you'll see that Juve is paying 7.2m eur for Ale's wages every year. The comparisson with Maldini wasn't the most accurate, i agree. I compared him with Maldini only because Rab mentioned the idol, the influence, all time favorite player part.
Ale will be 33 in little over a month. If he signs a 3 year contract without a pay-cut we'll have to pay 7.2x3 for his wages (21.6m eur) and imo it's too much for someone who'll be 33,34,35 during this time.
Don't get me wrong, i'll be pleased if Ale is getting what he wants, he's happy with us and he performs with us. The juventus fan side in me wants that. But if the board thinks it's too much and it may hurt us financially then i believe that Del Piero must accept the pay cut.
I don't really care how much Maldini is earning. Besides, he's 38years old almost 6years older than Ale. So you do the math.

I'll stand to my words and I'll criticize Ale if he decided to accept a pay-cut. Like Zaf said, we all support Juventus, but I'll support Ale before the likes of Cobolli and his men.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,941
So you do the math.

I'll stand to my words and I'll criticize Ale if he decided to accept a pay-cut.
I'll respect him even more if he accepts the pay-cut ( if it's possible to respect him more than this :) ) .
Not because it will show how much he loves Juve. Ale has proven his love on numerous occasions. But because he'll show us that he's aware of his current capabilities and that he's aware that for Juve today what he can offer on the pitch is more important than what he gave in the past .
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
I'll respect him even more if he accepts the pay-cut ( if it's possible to respect him more than this :) ) .
Not because it will show how much he loves Juve. Ale has proven his love on numerous occasions. But because he'll show us that he's aware of his current capabilities and that he's aware that for Juve today what he can offer on the pitch is more important than what he gave in the past .
Of course what he can offer on the pitch is more important, no doubt.... but people are judgin and criticizing him for just couple of games. I'm sure If Ale would have scored 4goals now, people wouldn't be asking for pay-cut.

Like Ranieri said few days ago, were Alex to score the freekicks against Udinese, they would have turned him into saint, but sometimes players aren't lucky. And Ale has been unlucky in couple of games.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,512
I also was ready to criticise Alex for not taking pay-cut before I saw how much Boumsong earns, it's not fair to ask Alex to take a pay-cut or from any of our champions to take a pay-cut, and that's why I understood Trez, Nedved and Camo's frustrations too.

Firstly let's cut Boumsong's wages and than we can talk about others.
 

Alfio_87

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
3,597
Del Piero is just looking like a little brat. The way he has been been complaining about his italian status in the sqaud. His slow start with Juve, now the contract dispute over more money and years. His got to get his head together he aint no 20 year old anymore his a grown man who must accept that in this business no one owes u anything. its harsh he has been terrific for Juve in Serie B and Italy for so many years but sometimes its just not fair. Its not like they want he out of sqaud its a pay cut of money that truely ISNT A ISSUE for someone of Del Piero! One year less one year more WHAT DOES THAT GAIN! What satisfactions will b gained he will be what Maldini is now just another bill for the club.
 

Omair

Herticity
Sep 27, 2006
3,254
Why is it 30% ? Can't it be any less .. 10% 15% ? A middle ground ?? I agree that Juve is bigger than Alex but that doesn't mean to demote him like this ..
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Looks like everyone over here defending the mang..... pretty nice... few months ago, everyone was insulting them and attacking them for the contract things (Pavel, Trez, Mauro, Chiellini etc) now everyone is stepping with the mang and agreein with them against what they're doing towards Del Piero. Interesting.
 

lil zlatan

Senior Member
Mar 5, 2006
1,083
Don issues Alex warning Friday 28 September, 2007

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Azzurri boss Roberto Donadoni indicates that he won’t be dictated to by Alessandro Del Piero and may turn to young talent against Georgia.

Juventus talisman Del Piero issued the ex-Livorno man with an ultimatum last month when he stressed that he would only play for Italy as a striker, rather than a midfielder.

While the Bianconeri captain is a potentially devastating weapon for the world champions, Donadoni has a wealth of striking options and seems frustrated at Del Piero’s stance.

“Will I choose him as a second striker? I like open dialogue and I won’t discount anyone without due consideration,” he told La Gazzetta dello Sport.

“But the more flexible a player is, the more chance he has of playing and the decision is mine to be made calmly.”

Donadoni’s men have struggled a little creatively since the retirement of Roma star Francesco Totti and for the first time the national boss acknowledged his loss.

“Obviously there are regrets,” he admitted. “Francesco is a great player and he would be very important for us.

“With him we would have two definite strikers instead of a man behind and two wingers. He brought a maturity and you felt like he was everywhere.”

Rather than rely on the likes of Del Piero and Cannavaro, Donadoni also stresed that he would like to blood a new generation of talent.

“I’m hoping that younger players will play a bigger role in the squad. Our youngsters are amongst the most promising in the world and we need to exploit them.

Domenico Criscito needs more experience, but it isn’t easy to be playing regularly for a big side like Juventus at his age. He is still one of the best in his age group.

“I’m watching Giuseppe Rossi with interest and also I’m following Riccardo Montolivo, Alessandro Rosina and Marco Borriello. These players are the future of the Italian national side.”

Italy host Georgia at the Stadio Luigi Ferraris in Genoa on October 13 and must win to keep their hopes of Euro 2008 qualification alive.

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