Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (107 Viewers)

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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That's a nonsense theory from that commentator, whoever he is.

First of all, if it was true then why did Conte play Del Piero yesterday? What if Del Piero won us the match? Then again Conte would have had to play him, wouldn't he?

Conte would kill to win the scudetto and if he thinks that Del Piero is the answer to winning the scudetto, then he'll play him non stop.
Conte is not showing it that he would kill to win the scudetto though, he looks more like he wants to kill to end the season undefeated.
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
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He's not thinking right and is underestimating Ale and also affected by what happened between Agnelli and Ale IMO.
:agree: The problem is that Conte don't think that Ale is good enough right now ( don't know why), that's wht he starts Borriello...ahead of him, and his assessement is wrong. Ale could still be very useful for us especially against small teams.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
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Its pretty clear to everyone that Del Piero should be ahead of at least borifag, why Conte dont see it is really baffling.

There is no formation, no tactic and no play where borifag would be better than Ale, unless our strategy is to have a annoying complaining irritating fuck playing upfront for us.

I like Conte a lot, i really do but his choice of a sticking to a few players (padoin,boriello and to some extent esti) and ignoring better options (Ale,martin,marrone) is confusing.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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Then Conte would say:"I told you he'll help us, I know how and when to use him" and yada yada yada.

But if Ale starts, shines and we lead 2-0\3-0 in HT, people will say:"The fucking fuck...where was this guy before?", and then Conte will have to play him much more.

For conclusion- if you give him 10 mintues and he scores, you'll have to give him 10 mintues again. If he starts and shines, you must start him again. That's the difference. You can make people forget quickly about 10 mintues and one goal, but not about an impact a player had on the team for a whole match.
Still doesn't make the theory plausible.

It was always clear that we have more chances to win Coppa than the scudetto. If we do win Coppa with Del Piero always starting and we fail to win the scudetto with Conte never starting Del Piero, then again you have the same result - An argument can be made that DP is indispensable to the team and he should stay.

However you look at it, the theory that "if Ale does well - which of course he will - then he will become indispensable to the team again and our board doesn't want him to stay but they want to easily push him out so that's why Conte doesn't play him" is very weak.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Yea as if we are treating the Coppa as anything more than a reserves exercise.
But does that matter?
If Conte wants to make Del Piero not look indispensable, then he surely won't risk DP to lead us to our first trophy in years (Coppa Italia).

The main problem with DP imo is that now he's not superior to the other strikers we have. He most definitely isn't worse than them, but he won't offer much more overall. The board doesn't want to keep him. These two things make him last choice.
If the board planned to keep him next year too, then he was defo gonna get more playing time than right now, but not much more. Matri and Vucinic would have still been first choice strikers and 4-3-3 was still gonna be the most used formation this season.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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But does that matter?
If Conte wants to make Del Piero not look indispensable, then he surely won't risk DP to lead us to our first trophy in years (Coppa Italia).

The main problem with DP imo is that now he's not superior to the other strikers we have. He most definitely isn't worse than them, but he won't offer much more overall. The board doesn't want to keep him. These two things make him last choice.
If the board planned to keep him next year too, then he was defo gonna get more playing time than right now, but not much more. Matri and Vucinic would have still been first choice strikers and 4-3-3 was still gonna be the most used formation this season.
Lol. You are known for talking crap in this thread so no surprise.
 

Lapa

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Sep 29, 2008
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WΏΏdy;3549210 said:
Its pretty clear to everyone that Del Piero should be ahead of at least borifag, why Conte dont see it is really baffling.

There is no formation, no tactic and no play where borifag would be better than Ale, unless our strategy is to have a annoying complaining irritating fuck playing upfront for us.

I like Conte a lot, i really do but his choice of a sticking to a few players (padoin,boriello and to some extent esti) and ignoring better options (Ale,martin,marrone) is confusing.
Don't diss Borrigol, his hair is awesome. :stuckup:
 
Jul 10, 2006
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None of us are seeing the squad on the practice field. Conte is obviously seeing something in training, whether rightly or wrongly, that leads him to start these other forwards ahead of Ale.

I just don't see a conspiracy, and I def don't think Conte is not playing Ale because he is afraid he will actually do well and give us results. I'm pretty confident that he is fielding what he thinks is the best squad available. He likely doesn't think Ale has the legs to make it 70-80 mins at his age. I do hope we get to see more of him coming of the bench going forward.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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Lol. You are known for talking crap in this thread so no surprise.
What is there to lol about? Inzaghi used to be 100 times the player Matri is, but right now he's not. Neither is Del Piero from what I could see from him this year in Coppa and serie A. He got 1 minute, 10 minutes, 20 minutes, full matches and I haven't seen him done any better than the other players who can play in his position.
If he was superior, he was easily gonna be 1st choice instead of being 4th or 5th choice. Noone in his right mind would bench his best player. Especially not a coach who'd give his right arm to win the scudetto in his first year with Juve.
 
Jul 10, 2006
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LOL so Conte is seeing something wrong with Alex in training is he?

We are moving into the science fiction section now.
That's not what I said, I said he must be seeing something in training which leads him to choose other forwards to start. It's a pretty simple idea. I don't think it's science fiction to imagine a 37 year old being out paced by guys ten years younger in practice. It's just a theory. Again, none of us re watching every practice. I trust Conte's judgement and I don't think it has anything to do with pushing Del Piero out. If Conte thinks he gives him the best chance to win I trust he will start him or otherwise play him. But no one is perfect.
 
Aug 17, 2007
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Still doesn't make the theory plausible.

It was always clear that we have more chances to win Coppa than the scudetto. If we do win Coppa with Del Piero always starting and we fail to win the scudetto with Conte never starting Del Piero, then again you have the same result - An argument can be made that DP is indispensable to the team and he should stay.

However you look at it, the theory that "if Ale does well - which of course he will - then he will become indispensable to the team again and our board doesn't want him to stay but they want to easily push him out so that's why Conte doesn't play him" is very weak.
Yes, but after the Coppa final, Ale will no longer be part of the team. Plus, Conte can always say that the Serie A is longer, more difficult competition.

I think it's you that should explain yourself, not me. It's March, all our forwards suck, but there's one guy that is ready every week, but he just sits there on the bench and never gets a chance. I've never seen anything like that. I've seen coaches that drop players out of the squad and never use them, but not coaches that threats forwards like second GK. You could try and say it's a professional decision in October, November, maybe even December. Not in March.
 

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