If you jump, Balotelli dies(Se Saltelli Muore Balotelli) (14 Viewers)

[Hist]

so, Neapolitans can be slammed in Northern stadia, the same goes for Sicilians (anyone remember WC 1990, where a sign was posted in one of the Northern stadiums , referring to Scillaci "not too bad for a dirty Sicilian"), the Roma sign a few years ago slamming Lazio and Livorno (same first letter, same ovens), signs slamming the police (ACAB)....but if you pick on a black man in any way, its racist

this reminds me waaaay too much of America

More attention is given to blacks in cases of Racism thats for sure everywhere in the world... but that doesn't mean we should allow it.

Whats happening to Balotelli is racism and it should be stopped. If another form of racism is happening to other segments be it Muslims, Jews, Arabs, Sicilians or whatever then IT TOO SHOULD BE STOPPED.

I am sure that if the Inter fans where the ones chanting the same chants over sissoko (assuming he was Italians) and that caused his game's level to decrease... Most of you would be crying racism too. As always.. Bias in control.

 

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[bianconero]

What are you on about Osman?

The chant about "jump and Balotelli dies", is not racist. Whereas the one about "a black man can't be Italian" clearly is. Noone is saying otherwise.

I am.

Se saletelli, moure Balotelli is not a racist chant. It's totally different than Negro di merda, which is racist, and which is idiotic chant as it can be.

It is if that is what is behind it. It is.

Look, I never condoned calling him a "negro di merda". That is obviously wrong. But sorry, the original chant in which this thread was based on is not racist, especially when similar chants are said in other stadiums about a general base of supporters, especially Italian fans.

Refer back to swag's post regarding A Season with Verona to understand that much of this is just banter, and considering this chant doesn't call him a nigger, I don't have a problem with it.

If that makes me a racist, so be it. It's one thing to label someone a racist when they condone racist chants, but in this case, with bianconero labeling us all racists, he's going overboard. Accusers are sometimes as idiotic as the offenders.

Banter is one thing, but this chant is not good ol' banter.

Odd how people that get so upset with Seven defend an obvious act of racism when it suites them.

If the context in which a chant is racist (the stadium) then even when removed that arena it still remains a racist chant.

Language is entirely dependent on contextural association.

Bang!

 

[Lion]

stfu white boy lol

 

[Osman]

Look, I never condoned calling him a "negro di merda". That is obviously wrong. But sorry, the original chant in which this thread was based on is not racist, especially when similar chants are said in other stadiums about a general base of supporters, especially Italian fans.

Refer back to swag's post regarding A Season with Verona to understand that much of this is just banter, and considering this chant doesn't call him a nigger, I don't have a problem with it.

If that makes me a racist, so be it. It's one thing to label someone a racist when they condone racist chants, but in this case, with bianconero labeling us all racists, he's going overboard. Accusers are sometimes as idiotic as the offenders.

Se saletelli, moure Balotelli is not a racist chant. It's totally different than Negro di merda, which is racist, and which is idiotic chant as it can be.

Was referring to negro di merda of previously, and nigger not being italian, which were said last night (Which I was addressing because Alen and Deneb were partly saying racial insults doesnt mean they are racially motivated in his case). Thought you were referring to that.

The other insult is not racist in itself (even if the attention he gets is motivated by that, its no coincidence they switch from jump if he you want him to die, till nigger is not italian, IMMEDIATELY after another by the same people, overall attention he receives from them is clearly racially related, its OBVIOUS), but its a really really stupid shit nontheless, wishing death on players. And should be dealt with, as should many insulting chants that are way too common in calcio.

 

[Lion]

yeah good luck with that buddy. Why not just gag the fans while your at it?

 

[X Æ A-12]

I think freedom of speech should take precedent over "Negro Merda's" hurt feelings. I don't agree with racist speech but it shouldn't be punished

 

[Enron]

Yeah! Kill the niggers.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Deport the beaners

 

[Osman]

Are you fucking kidding me Kyle? I hope so. Be serious for once. Its one thing with to say deeming it unserious bantering with the jump chant, but degenerate shit like outright racist shit should be allowed in Footie stadios?

I know americans have more lax concept of freedom of speech then Europe, but I'm pretty damn sure you dont allow your atheletes being hurled with fucking nigger you arent american, by 300 retards.

Answer me this, would you be this cavalier about this if the one getting the racist chants was the guy one your avatar, and from Inter fans?

 

[Enron]

Deport the beaners

You're 18 aren't you?

 

[Enron]

Are you fucking kidding me Kyle? I hope so. Be serious for once. Its one thing with to say deeming it unserious bantering with the jump chant, but degenerate shit like outright racist shit should be allowed in Footie stadios?

I know americans have more lax concept of freedom of speech then Europe, but I'm pretty damn sure you dont allow your atheletes being hurled with fucking nigger you arent american, by 300 retards.

Answer me this, would you be this cavalier about this if the one getting the racist chants was the guy one your avatar, and from Inter fans?

And the KKK do tend to get into trouble when they get out of line. You can say whatever you want in the US, but it might have consequences.

 

[Hist]

I think freedom of speech should take precedent over "Negro Merda's" hurt feelings. I don't agree with racist speech but it shouldn't be punished

It should be punished because if its not then fans will increasingly abuse black players as long as it affects their playing level.
There is no room for racism in sports the same way there is no room for politics in sports.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Are you fucking kidding me Kyle? I hope so. Be serious for once. Its one thing with to say deeming it unserious bantering with the jump chant, but degenerate shit like outright racist shit should be allowed in Footie stadios?

I know americans have more lax concept of freedom of speech then Europe, but I'm pretty damn sure you dont allow your atheletes being hurled with fucking nigger you arent american, by 300 retards.

Answer me this, would you be this cavalier about this if the one getting the racist chants was the guy one your avatar, and from Inter fans?

So you think people should be punished for sporting chants?

You're 18 aren't you?

Maybe... what is it to you?

 

[Hist]

And the KKK do tend to get into trouble when they get out of line. You can say whatever you want in the US, but it might have consequences.

I don't understand... you people don't mind discrimination?

 

[Osman]

What do you mean when saying punished exactly?

And answer the last part of my post if you will, if you arent to take the rest seriously (its fucking racist chants, RACIST, not some silly little pun said of a player) except ask a deflecting question.

And I'm I getting it right, but you dont see anything wrong with bigoted discrimination or what?

 

[Hist]

So you think people should be punished for sporting chants?

YES! IF THESE CHANTS WERE OF RACIST CONTENT

 

[X Æ A-12]

I don't understand... you people don't mind discrimination?

I don't mind what somebody says, speech is not discrimination.

 

[Enron]

I don't understand... you people don't mind discrimination?

Discrimination is against the law. Speech, however, is not discrimination.

Discrimination refers to the treatment taken toward or against a person of a certain group that is taken in consideration based on class or category.

 

[Enron]

Maybe... what is it to you?

You just act young that's all.

 

[Osman]

A Season With Verona also stresses the fact that Northern Italy does have a problem with racism.

First they say he can't be Italian, because he's black. And now they're singing they want him to die.

How on earth is that not racism? Are you seriously implying that the first incident has got nothing to do with the second?

Exactly Seven, cant make it more simpler then that. As I said, last night, they went from chanting die Baloletti, to you nigger you arent italian. Its very bizzare to say the overall picture isnt pretty damn clear.