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If you jump, Balotelli dies(Se Saltelli Muore Balotelli) (20 Viewers)
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So then you guys are implying that a huge portion of our fans, and even myself, are racists? I really doubt that is the case, and considering that the chants for jumping for Balotelli were much, much louder than the nigger ones, would that not imply that some folks do not agree with such racist taunts?
You cannot prove that everyone who jumps for Balotelli is someone who believes he's not Italian, even though I know many think he's not.
What you folks are doing is the exact definition of going overboard.
But go ahead, try to ban fan chants. See what that does to the sport.
Fuck Balotelli.
You cannot prove that everyone who jumps for Balotelli is someone who believes he's not Italian, even though I know many think he's not.
What you folks are doing is the exact definition of going overboard.
But go ahead, try to ban fan chants. See what that does to the sport.
Fuck Balotelli.
If it was against Sissoko I would be pissed and I would curse Inter fans but I would want them to stop but I wouldn't want them punished for it. I think you misunderstand what I am saying, racist chants are bad and should not be in football but in general I am against any type of censorship. The problem is deeper rooted and not related to football, IMO we should be questioning why these fans think it is appropriate to mock a footballer or anybody because of his race.
What is it with you? Simple talk is not discrimination. I'm not talking about forcing blacks to the back of the bus I'm talking about the right to say what you want. Don't try to make me look racist because I am not.
I wasn't talking to you
What is it with you? Simple talk is not discrimination. I'm not talking about forcing blacks to the back of the bus I'm talking about the right to say what you want. Don't try to make me look racist because I am not.
I wasn't talking to you
That's why things such as "hate crimes" are so controversial. Speech is one of those mediums where it's difficult to tell intent. Are Juve fans chanting at Ballotelli simply because he's black and they hate black people or do they simply not like the player and wish to get under his skin? The answer to that question is relative to each chanter.
You are aware that speech is the way humans communicate. The content of what we speak is an expression of our opinions which generate our attitudes which makes us take action. So speech motivates action. If my speech is constantly bashing black people then its very likely that my actions would not favor them either. My perception of them would be -ve.
Now imagine also the children watching the game in the stadium or on TV...
They'll see the 300 idiots (the "representatives" of the juve fans) bashing blacks which will affect their perception about blacks.
Take a look at the media... using "speech" marketers make you buy shit you don't want, vote for people you have no idea about, make you generate stereo types about Jews and Arabs....
As a marketer I can tell you for a fact that allowing racist speech (in and outside the stadiums) will equate to discrimination.
Now imagine also the children watching the game in the stadium or on TV...
They'll see the 300 idiots (the "representatives" of the juve fans) bashing blacks which will affect their perception about blacks.
Take a look at the media... using "speech" marketers make you buy shit you don't want, vote for people you have no idea about, make you generate stereo types about Jews and Arabs....
As a marketer I can tell you for a fact that allowing racist speech (in and outside the stadiums) will equate to discrimination.
You cannot prove that in every case it is based on racism. I hate Balotelli for the player he is, not because of the color of his skin. Some folks may love the chant because they don't think Balo is Italian, while others might just hate the way he acts and the color of his shirt. You can't possibly prove one or the other because we have no idea who started the chant.
Now, the folks yelling nigger, nigger are either truly racist, or just being assholes, both of which are unacceptable in this case.
And fuck Balotelli (oops, I'm racist).
Now, the folks yelling nigger, nigger are either truly racist, or just being assholes, both of which are unacceptable in this case.
And fuck Balotelli (oops, I'm racist).
Newsflash, the bold part, they are the same frigging people.
Again, lastnight, the same folks against Udinese that chanted this chant and got us fined, chanted the same chant of wishing death on him, and IMEDIATELY afterwards chanted this nigger is not italian. And this same ultra group, I betcha are the same fucking morons who chanted Negro di merda in last season, and got us a stadium ban for it. In my 16 years as Juve fan, I cant recall us getting stadium ban for racism before, and we did just 7 months ago.
Again, lastnight, the same folks against Udinese that chanted this chant and got us fined, chanted the same chant of wishing death on him, and IMEDIATELY afterwards chanted this nigger is not italian. And this same ultra group, I betcha are the same fucking morons who chanted Negro di merda in last season, and got us a stadium ban for it. In my 16 years as Juve fan, I cant recall us getting stadium ban for racism before, and we did just 7 months ago.