"I support Muslims who love freedom" (8 Viewers)

[lgorTudor]

I love it when muzzies tell other muzzies that they're not being good muzzies, but bad muzzies and that they will go to hell, because they support the wrong muzziness.

such derogative language

 

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[Seven]

such derogative language

I think muzzies should embrace it. I know it's derogatory, but it does sound funny.

 

[Siamak]

I love it when muzzies tell other muzzies that they're not being good muzzies, but bad muzzies and that they will go to hell, because they support the wrong muzziness.

depend on knowledge many of people who want know about religion seem to get enough information from source and Reasoning to find it and find truth of islam.I'm sorry you couldn't understand me If you don't have something helpful to say then take your little attitude and get out of here.

 

[icemaη]

depend on knowledge many of people who want know about religion seem to get enough information from source and Reasoning to find it and find truth of islam.I'm sorry you couldn't understand me If you don't have something helpful to say then take your little attitude and get out of here.

But he is right though. The infighting (as with any other religion to be honest) is there and it has nothing to do with Shia or Sunni. The infighting within Sunni itself is so rampant. I look at my hometown and there seems to be a million factions. And boy when they start a war of words, it's not pretty.
(In before "You're Indian, so you are not a real Muslim" )

 

[Maddy]

Truth. What a dangerous word.

Good thing I'm an Untrutheist.

 

[Siamak]

But he is right though. The infighting (as with any other religion to be honest) is there and it has nothing to do with Shia or Sunni. The infighting within Sunni itself is so rampant. I look at my hometown and there seems to be a million factions. And boy when they start a war of words, it's not pretty.
(In before "You're Indian, so you are not a real Muslim" )

Fighting has a context that even non religious people in the europea can see through for the farce that it is ( iraq war early 2000's, more than 85% of UK didn't want to go to war, their government still went to war, as you said: 'infighting '

 

[icemaη]

Fighting has a context that even non religious people in the europea can see through for the farce that it is ( iraq war early 2000's, more than 85% of UK didn't want to go to war, their government still went to war, as you said: 'infighting '

What?

 

[Siamak]

What?

my meant islam doesn't call people to war just when they need to defend from themselves you can see non religious people that divided the middle east in to chaos and Their other imperialist acts with war and kill like what they did do with iraq and etc

 

[Seven]

my meant islam doesn't call people to war just when they need to defend from themselves you can see non religious people that divided the middle east in to chaos and Their other imperialist acts with war and kill like what they did do with iraq and etc

Your Islam condemns people who are muslims themselves. It's ridiculous to fight people of another faith, but to fight people of your own faith is even more ludicrous. 'My God who is basically the same as your God but with a straw hat is the only true God'.

Really, if muslims just worship I have no problem with them whatsoever. But what you're doing and saying is a farce.

 

[Mohad]

and ibn abbas confirmed you dont need a reason, why is it so hard to grasp? either you accept what ibn abbas says or you dont, no cherry picking

I have studied all types of hadith, so that I avoid any confusions. Ibn Abbas didn't actually confirm that (I saw some use it as an advantage for their excuses), he only stated what the Prophet (pbuh) did and why. Just like what Abdullah ibn Mas'ud stated: "I never observed the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) perform any prayer out of its time except at Muzdalifa. He combined Maghrib and 'Isha at Muzdalifa" (Sahih al-Bukhari 1:227, Sahih Muslim 1:417, Sharh Ma'ani 'l-athar 1:164). I can provide you many other hadiths if you like.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I have studied all types of hadith, so that I avoid any confusions. Ibn Abbas didn't actually confirm that (I saw some use it as an advantage for their excuses), he only stated what the Prophet (pbuh) did and why. Just like what Abdullah ibn Mas'ud stated: "I never observed the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) perform any prayer out of its time except at Muzdalifa. He combined Maghrib and 'Isha at Muzdalifa" (Sahih al-Bukhari 1:227, Sahih Muslim 1:417, Sharh Ma'ani 'l-athar 1:164). I can provide you many other hadiths if you like.

ok so what about this one:

' Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Messenger of Allah (s) combined the noon prayer with the afternoon prayer and the sunset prayer with the 'Isha' prayer in Medina without being in a state of danger or rainfall. And in the hadith transmitted by Waki' (the words are): �I said to Ibn 'Abbas: What prompted him to do that? He said: So that his (Prophet's) Ummah should not be put to (unnecessary) hardship.�
[Sahih Muslim (English translation), Kitab al-Salat, Book 4, Chapter 100 Combination of prayers when one is resident, hadith no. 1520; Sunan al-Tirmidhi, vol. 1, p. 26]'

is ibn abbas lying? is there bad hadith in muslim?

 

[Mohad]

ok so what about this one:

' Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Messenger of Allah (s) combined the noon prayer with the afternoon prayer and the sunset prayer with the 'Isha' prayer in Medina without being in a state of danger or rainfall. And in the hadith transmitted by Waki' (the words are): �I said to Ibn 'Abbas: What prompted him to do that? He said: So that his (Prophet's) Ummah should not be put to (unnecessary) hardship.�
[Sahih Muslim (English translation), Kitab al-Salat, Book 4, Chapter 100 Combination of prayers when one is resident, hadith no. 1520; Sunan al-Tirmidhi, vol. 1, p. 26]'

is ibn abbas lying? is there bad hadith in muslim?

Most of the scholars agreed that you can combine prayers due to illness or severe need based on that hadith.

As for your question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categories_of_Hadith

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Most of the scholars agreed that you can combine prayers due to illness or severe need based on that hadith.

As for your question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categories_of_Hadith

can you please answer the questions, the above is sahih

 

[Mohad]

can you please answer the questions, the above is sahih

Answer what?

About if Ibn Abbas is lying? Of course not. I have just explained his statement in that hadith.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Answer what?

About if Ibn Abbas is lying? Of course not. I have just explained his statement in that hadith.

how can you explain something that is crystal clear? nowhere does it say illness or severe need, where did you get those from?

 

[Mohad]

how can you explain something that is crystal clear? nowhere does it say illness or severe need, where did you get those from?

http://islamqa.info/en/97844

 

[GordoDeCentral]

http://islamqa.info/en/97844

my friend, you can read, and i take it you take the sahihs as canon, no need to check with ibn taymiyah, unless you start to question the verasity of muslim.

 

[Mohad]

my friend, you can read, and i take it you take the sahihs as canon, no need to check with ibn taymiyah, unless you start to question the verasity of muslim.

Without ijtihad by the scholars no one will understand what most of the hadiths means.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Without ijtihad by the scholars no one will understand what most of the hadiths means.

you sure that's not catholicism?

 

[Zé Tahir]

my meant islam doesn't call people to war just when they need to defend from themselves you can see non religious people that divided the middle east in to chaos and Their other imperialist acts with war and kill like what they did do with iraq and etc

I'd love to know your answer to Asif's question but I don't think you understood it.

Why is there so much Sunni vs Sunni hate? You not only label non-Sunni kafir but each other kafir as well. Why's that?