"I support Muslims who love freedom" (4 Viewers)

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Zacheryah

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I'll take a stab...

By criticizing religions for suggesting that their way of belief is the only one, true, enlightened way... and criticizing religions for proselytizing their superiority of their belief system and trying to convert others to their way of thinking.
I'd like to think that atheists who actively go out and trashtalk religious people in trowing their believes, do a simular type of oppression that we consider fundamentalists are guilty with.


I'm an atheist, and if someone else wants to pick whatever different religion, thats his private choise. And as long as his religion doesnt influence the way my state or country works, or harms me, i'm totally fine with it.


My girlfriend is 5/10 religious catholic. Has something to do with losing her father and coping with it. Why should i be an asshole about it and tell her she's wrong ? All she asks of me in that regard is to go to church with her twice a year when they honor their death.
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Why you didn't post the whole story about that moment? And for no reason? Where did you get that?

this sums it up nicely

http://www.al-islam.org/nutshell/laws_practices/4.htm

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looks like there's a lot of confusion among the islam specialists here. you guys should get like a common source of reference
many dont know what they believe, and others dont bother to find out, we can discuss halakha next if you'd like or tattvas you choose
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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I recommend everyone watch this clip.


The man speaking is a columnist and is one of the very few great thinkers Pakistan and I dare say the Muslim world has right now. In this clip he completely destroys the panel of various Mullahs of various sects and leaves them speechless.

If you don't understand Urdu there is intermittent subs in there so you'll get the general idea.
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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I recommend everyone watch this clip.


The man speaking is a columnist and is one of the very few great thinkers Pakistan and I dare say the Muslim world has right now. In this clip he completely destroys the panel of various Mullahs of various sects and leaves them speechless.

If you don't understand Urdu there is intermittent subs in there so you'll get the general idea.
Why is it only men?
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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this site explains about what will happen after the Occultation
http://www.tebyan.net/newindex.aspx?pid=276374
i translate to english:
ـ بعد از ظهور امام زمان (عج) و به حكومت رسیدن ایشان مراحل زندگی چگونه خواهد بود و تا چه زمانی خواهد ماند؟

بعد از ظهور در ابتدا جنگی سخت بین حضرت حجت (عج) (به همراه یاوران ایشان) و دشمنان آن حضرت رخ می دهد، كه به پیروزی ایشان و پس از آن تشكیل حكومت، می انجامد. حكومت آن حضرت متشكل از استانداران و كارگزارانی است كه جز به مصالح كشور اسلامی و خشنودی خدا نمی اندیشند و تمام تلاش آنها برای گسترش عدالت بر زمین است بطوری كه گستره آن عدالت، علاوه بر انسانها، حیوانات را هم در بر می گیرد و همه از آن بهره مند می گردند. و از آن جایی كه آن حضرت، امام هستند علاوه بر حكومت تشریعی، حكومتی تكوینی نیز دارند و بر دلها هم حكومت می كنند.

حكومت مهدوی، در تمام زمینه های اجتماعی، فرهنگی، اقتصادی، علمی، دینی، امنیتی و... تحولی عمیق و رو به جلو ایجاد می كند و پیشرفت در این زمینه ها به گونه ای استكه بالاتر از آن قابل تصور نیست.

1-What will happen to the Islamic governments in the wake of the reappearance of the Imam of Time (atf)?
2-After the reappearance of Imam zaman (shia savior after The Occultation ) and to state their arrival and how long will the life be like?
After the advent of the first battle between him (along with their helpers) and his enemies occurs and he will be over come against them then the formation of the government, leads. all their efforts to expand its scope so that justice is justice on earth, in addition to humans, animals and all it takes benefit from it Mahdavi government, in all areas of social, cultural, economic, scientific, religious, security and creates profound and forward progress in a way known, than it is inconceivable.
:lol: Poor shiites thought the Imam was returning during their lifetime or one generation after Hussein was killed. Then the prophecy kept changing because no one showed up then they pushed it to right before judgment day.

Funnily enough judgment day was supposed to be very close to mohammed's time. Babies from his era were supposed to witness it in their life time if I remember the hadith correctly and then it too kept getting pushed farther and farther because nothing happened. Wasn't the second coming of Christ supposed to be very close to Christ's time too (for Christians back in the day that is)?
 
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    many dont know what they believe, and others dont bother to find out, we can discuss halakha next if you'd like or tattvas you choose
    i choose a lovely jasmine flavored indo tea without any of the baggage :lick:
     
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    Just for info, now when you ask for specifically a jasmine flavored tea in Egypt, it is a way for asking bribery without saying it publicly :D.
    That's really stupid cause jasmine tea is gorgeous, and now you've made it ambiguous and you don't even know what you want anymore.
     

    IliveForJuve

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    Jan 17, 2011
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    I'll take a stab...

    By criticizing religions for suggesting that their way of belief is the only one, true, enlightened way... and criticizing religions for proselytizing their superiority of their belief system and trying to convert others to their way of thinking.
    Except that atheists actually have the truth :p
     
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