"I support Muslims who love freedom" (40 Viewers)

[Juventino[RUS]]

okay, another questions:
"And he followed a road; Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness. (Qur'an 18:85-86)"
The whole idea about the man that walked to "setting-place of the sun" is absolutely stupid, we all know that the Earth rotates around the sun, if the sun will come closer to the earth it will burn everything here to ashes, it's pretty simple thing to realize it, yet "modern" muslims act like they don't understand it

this is one is ridiculous:
"But the hoopoe stayed not long and said, "I have encompassed [in knowledge] that which you have not encompassed, and I have come to you from Sheba with certain news." 27:22
"Until, when they came upon the valley of the ants, an ant said, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not." 27:18

So, you want to tell me that you believe in the talking ants, birds? What's wrong with you? Do you understand why humans can speak and why other creatures can't? the ability to speak is formed in us by advanced brains with complex thought patterns named Broca's area

Spoiler

Let's go back to ants - they don't even have speech patterns, they communicate through this:
"The use of pheromones as chemical signals is more developed in ants, such as the red harvester ant, than in other hymenopteran groups. Like other insects, ants perceive smells with their long, thin, and mobile antennae. The paired antennae provide information about the direction and intensity of scents."

I mean what kind of facts you need more? Mountains doesn't save us from Earthquakes - fact, Sun doesn't have a "setting-place" - fact, animals can't talk like we do - fact, not enough? i can continue

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how much is my sarcasm lvl?

on the arabical system 12391203489240, on the roman system MMMMXXXCCCLLLVVV

 

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[Zé Tahir]

Did RUS just graduate from university or how does he seem so smart after all these years? Great job dude and congrats.

He went to the U of Plagiarism.

He's pretty much copying lines from answering-islam.org verbatim.

 

[Mohad]

and so are you, what good have you made of your youth?

i made a forum once

No one should ask you about your youth after this

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

He went to the U of Plagiarism.

He's pretty much copying lines from answering-islam.org verbatim.

Wow, you just hit the rock bottom, i never used this website in my life

 

[Zé Tahir]

Wow, you just hit the rock bottom, i never used this website in my life

But you do admit you are getting it from somewhere, right? You can't string together a grammatically correct sentence to save your life but we're to believe you're writing this all by yourself?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

But you do admit you are getting it from somewhere, right? You can't string together a grammatically correct sentence to save your life but we're to believe you're writing this all by yourself?

Google translate is helping me with the unknown words, I have never denied this

 

[Lapa]

how do you get promoted so much when you're basically drunk the whole time?

It's all about personality.

It's all about money. I make money, no matter if I'm drunk or not. Personality is just a good tool to make all that money (having good relationship with subcontractors etc.).

Money for the company, not that much for myself yet.

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how do you get promoted so much when you're basically drunk the whole time?

It's all about personality.

He went to the U of Plagiarism.

He's pretty much copying lines from answering-islam.org verbatim.

All schools nowadays are like that...it's all about copy-paste. People don't have a clue how to think by themselves.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Google translate is helping me with the unknown words, I have never denied this

Does music and dancing help you?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Only once? You have to pray 5 times per day, also i have a very serious question for ya - 5 times per day you have to kiss carpet looking towards Mecca, but since Earth is a sphere it does mean that whenever you look at something with ur eyes you look at the same thing with your ass, it's ok in islam to show ur ass to mecca? i very curious with this

Fucking post of the century

FORZA RUS

 

[Seven]

He went to the U of Plagiarism.

He's pretty much copying lines from answering-islam.org verbatim.

What kind of moronic website is that?

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Yes. Except islamophobia is racism. You can also have the idea that black people are inferior. It would still be racist. Whether or not it is an idea. Seriously, who invents these things?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/2...nelled-300k-to-hamas-linked-charity-documents

Modern muslims are fine they says, i am always right when it comes religion they never saYS

everytime when you give ur money to church, mosque or whatever they use 90% of it for themselves, not for the charity, look how good popes, imams are living, but when it comes to radicals they also use all these money to help terrorists, but no, i am islamophobe and racist. They all call describe their organizations as "non-profit" while they are millionaires

P.S. and ofc they don't pay taxes, for example - the profitability of the church candle is 1500%, it's on the 2nd place after Heroin which has 1600% profitability, no land tax also, no work permit, no documents, no-thing

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What kind of moronic website is that?

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Yes. Except islamophobia is racism. You can also have the idea that black people are inferior. It would still be racist. Whether or not it is an idea. Seriously, who invents these things?

you can't be serious, muslims are not the race

 

[Seven]

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/2...nelled-300k-to-hamas-linked-charity-documents

Modern muslims are fine they says, i am always right when it comes religion they never saYS

everytime when you give ur money to church, mosque or whatever they use 90% of it for themselves, not for the charity, look how good popes, imams are living, but when it comes to radicals they also use all these money to help terrorists, but no, i am islamophobe and racist. They all call describe their organizations as "non-profit" while they are millionaires

P.S. and ofc they don't pay taxes, for example - the profitability of the church candle is 1500%, it's on the 2nd place after Heroin which has 1600% profitability, no land tax also, no work permit, no documents, no-thing

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you can't be serious, muslims are not the race

Let's just keep it at bigotry then, to avoid arguments.

 

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[Zé Tahir]

okay, another questions:
"And he followed a road; Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness. (Qur'an 18:85-86)"
The whole idea about the man that walked to "setting-place of the sun" is absolutely stupid, we all know that the Earth rotates around the sun, if the sun will come closer to the earth it will burn everything here to ashes, it's pretty simple thing to realize it, yet "modern" muslims act like they don't understand it

this is one is ridiculous:
"But the hoopoe stayed not long and said, "I have encompassed [in knowledge] that which you have not encompassed, and I have come to you from Sheba with certain news." 27:22
"Until, when they came upon the valley of the ants, an ant said, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not." 27:18

So, you want to tell me that you believe in the talking ants, birds? What's wrong with you? Do you understand why humans can speak and why other creatures can't? the ability to speak is formed in us by advanced brains with complex thought patterns named Broca's area

Spoiler

Let's go back to ants - they don't even have speech patterns, they communicate through this:
"The use of pheromones as chemical signals is more developed in ants, such as the red harvester ant, than in other hymenopteran groups. Like other insects, ants perceive smells with their long, thin, and mobile antennae. The paired antennae provide information about the direction and intensity of scents."

I mean what kind of facts you need more? Mountains doesn't save us from Earthquakes - fact, Sun doesn't have a "setting-place" - fact, animals can't talk like we do - fact, not enough? i can continue

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Research lvl 0

"Naml", translates to ants. Wadih An-Naml means the Valley of the Ants but it's referring to a tribe named Naml, not ants literally.
Source: http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1968&region=E1&CR=EN,E2&CR=EN,E2

"Hudhud" does translate to bird but it's also a name. A popular name during the time of Solomon and found in other time periods as well. The verse is referring to a man not a bird.
Source: http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1970&region=E1&CR=EN,E2

Setting place of the Sun isn't literal...even without having any context I figured it to be referring to a Westerly location and I wasn't far off.
Source:http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1537&region=E1&CR=EN,E2&CR=EN,E2

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Isn't literal yes it's metaphore, everything is metaphore - the meetings with angels, flyin on the horse that have human head, speaking with ants and birds - everything isn't literal and metaphore

Hudhud part - Solomon's army had men, jinns and birds in it, so yes he was talking about bird, not about someone's nickname, in Quran (27:20)Solomon reviewed his birds and found the hoopoe (hud-hud) missing.
http://quran.com/27/20 - the prove is here, "And he took attendance of the birds and said, "Why do I not see the hoopoe - or is he among the absent?", even on arab its about birds "وَتَفَقَّدَ الطَّيْرَ فَقَالَ مَا لِيَ لَا أَرَى الْهُدْهُدَ أَمْ كَانَ مِنَ الْغَائِبِينَ" , or you want to tell me that Solomon was looking for his men in a flock of birds?!

Ants part - it's pretty simple, it's forbidden to kill ants in islam "Since early Antiquity, ants have been an object of admiration on account of the feverish activity with which they provide for their sustenance and the perfect organisation of their societies." Hadith literature tells of the Prophet Muhammad forbidding Muslims to kill the ant, bee, hoopoe, or shrike, so yes he was talking about real ant, not about men

you are typical religion-defender who'd like to mislead people

let's go further:
The earth is flat and mountains
Qur'an 15:19
"Waal-arda madadnahawaalqayna feeha rawasiya waanbatnafeeha min kulli shay-in mawzoonin
And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance. "

Once again - mountains were created by the movement of the tectonic plates, case closed, it's a science, it's a FACT, hate it or love it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_formation
As for earth - earth is a sphere, you can't spread out anything on it as the crow flies

 

[Maddy]

RUS stop being a religious Atheist. You are ruining it for the rest of us.

Take back Atheism 2015.

 

[swag]

Oh so true...

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

RUS stop being a religious Atheist. You are ruining it for the rest of us.

Take back Atheism 2015.

science is my religion then

 

[NinjaPoggy]

you're not very good at it though, RUS is an insult to athiests