How nerdy are you? (3 Viewers)

[mikhail]

There's not a single black guy that doesn't smell "black" . I can't help it, but I really do smell them. A friend of mine does too. Perhaps it's because I lived a few years in Zambia when I was young and my friend has a lot of black friends and went to black Africa multiple times.

I've noticed that kind of thing too - but not with people who've grown up Irish (adopted), so I've long assumed that it's mainly dietary. From what I've heard, yes, there's an equivalent smell associated with us westerners.

 

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[Slagathor]

You know any more about that? I'm fascinated now, this is all new to me

I guess it's easy to smell shit from miles away

Asians like Indians and such, don't wash thier hair; they only use oil.

It's toxic to come close to them.

You are very disturbing

 

[Dominic]

Nah, just a misunderstood soul.

 

[Geof]

Your Score Summary

Overall, you scored as follows:

82% scored higher (more nerdy), and
18% scored lower (less nerdy).

What does this mean? Your nerdiness is:

Not nerdy, but then again maybe not all that cool either.

 

[gray]

Graham damn you, quit steeling my thunder

Come on Erik, you honestly expected to outdo me in a nerd test?

This is awesome stuff; from this one thread I've found out that I'm a nerd, a complete tool with a high tolerance for boredom, and that I use oil instead of shampoo to wash my hair. The things you learn in one day! :superhapp

 

[Slagathor]

Come on Erik, you honestly expected to outdo me in a nerd test?

No, since both you and I know that was never going to happen I was expecting you to NOT take the test out of sympathy

This is awesome stuff; from this one thread I've found out that I'm a nerd, a complete tool with a high tolerance for boredom, and that I use oil instead of shampoo to wash my hair. The things you learn in one day! :superhapp

Yeah this is a thread for the history records

 

[Slagathor]

Graham, I just heard a Christian state he doesn't believe in free will. How is that compatible with the religion? Isn't free will the whole point?

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

no free will. HE does all

 

[gray]

Haha, in that case you have my apologies for not letting you have your little moment

You're correct, free will is the whole point. Any chance you can give a bit more detail re: the basis of the argument?

Don't forget that there are people who claim to be Christians who say that the death of American soldiers is punishment for the tolerance of homosexuality.

 

[Martin]

Don't forget that there are people who claim to be Christians who say that the death of American soldiers is punishment for the tolerance of homosexuality.

"claim"?

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

so you are saying that christians dont believe that somewhere there is someone who has decided how everything is to go down?

 

[Martin]

so you are saying that christians dont believe that somewhere there is someone who has decided how everything is to go down?

If you take the fundamental issue of Heaven and Hell, then obviously the point is that you do have free will to choose, and your choices will determine how you end up. Otherwise there wouldn't be a heave and a hell, would there?

 

[mikhail]

so you are saying that christians dont believe that somewhere there is someone who has decided how everything is to go down?

There's a moderately interesting philosophical question about free will which asks, assuming there is no free will, how can you punish someone for their actions?

Anyway, I'm fairly sure that my religious instructors were clear on the Catholic church believing in free will.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

If you take the fundamental issue of Heaven and Hell, then obviously the point is that you do have free will to choose, and your choices will determine how you end up. Otherwise there wouldn't be a heave and a hell, would there?

There's a moderately interesting philosophical question about free will which asks, assuming there is no free will, how can you punish someone for their actions?

Anyway, I'm fairly sure that my religious instructors were clear on the Catholic church believing in free will.

very good points both.

 

[gray]

"claim"?

What's the source of confusion here?

so you are saying that christians dont believe that somewhere there is someone who has decided how everything is to go down?

We have free will to make our own choices, but in the end God knows what we're going to do, and ultimately is in control of it all.

 

[mikhail]

We have free will to make our own choices, but in the end God knows what we're going to do, and ultimately is in control of it all.

Er, that statement is internally inconsistent. Either we chose, or God does (or neither, but let's neglect that for the moment). You can't have it both ways.

 

[Martin]

What's the source of confusion here?

It kinda looked like you were disqualifying them from the faith for their belief about homosexuality.

 

[Slagathor]

What's the source of confusion here?


We have free will to make our own choices, but in the end God knows what we're going to do, and ultimately is in control of it all.

Yeah that was more or less the problem: Theological Determinism. Meaning:

* God determines all that humans do.

Now if it had been about Causal Determinism, which you seem to be hinting at, I could've understood. Causal being:

* The Future = Past and Present Actions + Laws of Nature.

Since God is aware (omniscience) of the laws of nature and the actions and choices of man, he knows the future. But that doesn't interfere with free will. Theological Determinism, however, does. So I wasn't quite following this bloke :undecide:

 

[gray]

yeah, I really wasn't going to get into this because it's right up there with the Trinity in terms of being able to fully get my head around it. In truth I can't give the exact X and Y re: how our free will works with God's sovereignty (in terms of answering questions along the lines of "if I decide to go and grab a coke from the fridge, is that because God wanted me to?)

It kinda looked like you were disqualifying them from the faith for their belief about homosexuality.

Not so much their belief about homosexuality, but their interpretation of the character of God. More than that though, it's their actions and hate-mongering that really make me doubt the credibility of that lot.

 

[Martin]

Not so much their belief about homosexuality, but their interpretation of the character of God. More than that though, it's their actions and hate-mongering that really make me doubt the credibility of that lot.

You're saying they're claiming to be Christians but aren't. Well, there are a lot of people claiming to be religious who don't exactly act like it, including much of clergy up through the ages. So the question is how do you define if someone is Christian. Is it by what they really feel (which you can't verify) or is it by what they say?

Of course that doesn't exclude the possibility that Bush truly is a Christian, not just a poser, and still does what he does.