trophies.btw im not talking about european success alone,im talking about success overall - the league and the european tournaments.if the topic is a bit misleading than change it to 'league and european success'.
having one definitive answer could be difficult.for eg,liverpool have won more european honours than juventus,but in terms of league success,juventus beat them.so its difficult determining which has been the better club over the course of its history.we cant say anything for sure,or can we?