Hamsik to Juve? (19 Viewers)
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Man Utd were shit when he took over. It took him several years to turn them into a top side.
What I admire is the fact that he has consistently managed to to produce top teams. He is one probably his 4th Man Utd which he has won the league with.
I agree that when Utd started winning titles in the 90's that the competitio wasn't that tough but, from about 1998 onwards, there has been at least one other side good enough to win the title.
I consider Lippi the best tactician and Ferguson the best at man management.
What I admire is the fact that he has consistently managed to to produce top teams. He is one probably his 4th Man Utd which he has won the league with.
I agree that when Utd started winning titles in the 90's that the competitio wasn't that tough but, from about 1998 onwards, there has been at least one other side good enough to win the title.
I consider Lippi the best tactician and Ferguson the best at man management.
On a club level, Ferguson has indeed achieved more than Lippi. On an international level, Lippi proved his brilliance. The fact is, Ferguson didn't take as much risks as Lippi, he didn't coach a national side and chose to remain in Manure where he had everything he needed.
His tactics aren't what made him successful in contrast to Lippi. He has always had certain players that have been able to make the difference, super players, if you may. His success isn't a result of tactical brilliance but more of his players' brilliance. After this season is over, people wouldn't ask,: Where would Manure be ithout Fergie" but would probably ask,"Where would Manure be without Ronaldo".
To me, Lippi is a better coach because his tactics and coaching were a huge part of why Itay won the WC. He didn't have a player that could run circles around a defense and finish off the game for you, he constructed a solid, compact team that were disciplined and mentaly strong enough to win. That to me, is why Lippi is a masterclass.
His tactics aren't what made him successful in contrast to Lippi. He has always had certain players that have been able to make the difference, super players, if you may. His success isn't a result of tactical brilliance but more of his players' brilliance. After this season is over, people wouldn't ask,: Where would Manure be ithout Fergie" but would probably ask,"Where would Manure be without Ronaldo".
To me, Lippi is a better coach because his tactics and coaching were a huge part of why Itay won the WC. He didn't have a player that could run circles around a defense and finish off the game for you, he constructed a solid, compact team that were disciplined and mentaly strong enough to win. That to me, is why Lippi is a masterclass.
United never had "super players"!!! Who would u call supper cantona or beckham!! They had good players at best. But i have to say ferguson in my books is a great couch but never best in the world. Winning 1 champions league trophy in 25 years with man united doesn't make u a legand am sorry. He might be a legand for man united only but not when compared to others.....
Paul Scholes is one of the best passers of the ball in the game.
Van Nisteroy was one of the best finishers in the world.
Roy Keane was a phenomenon as was Ryan Giggs at his peak.
Beckham could put a football on the end of any players head on his day.
Then theres people like Mark Hughes, Steve Bruce, Paul Ince who were all top players.
Man Utd always had great players in their squad.
Van Nisteroy was one of the best finishers in the world.
Roy Keane was a phenomenon as was Ryan Giggs at his peak.
Beckham could put a football on the end of any players head on his day.
Then theres people like Mark Hughes, Steve Bruce, Paul Ince who were all top players.
Man Utd always had great players in their squad.
Can't believe that guy said ManUtd only had good players since 80's. 
Well put, folks.
Well put, folks.
He's definitely a legend for Man Utd. Benitez won the CL on his 1st season with Liverpool. You think he's better than Fergie. Best in the world is a statement noone should be eligible to carry. But Ferguson should definitely deserve his hype after what he has done. Put in a player and a coach together. It's almost the same. Del Piero won one CL in 15 years with us. He's a legend of Juve. So why not Fergie?
Who could really say? The players Man Utd had was more than enough super for their squad. Plus Beckham and Ryan Giggs should be rated just as highly during their days. Do you rate Zidane as a super player? Roy Keane made him look like nothing in 1999.
Who could really say? The players Man Utd had was more than enough super for their squad. Plus Beckham and Ryan Giggs should be rated just as highly during their days. Do you rate Zidane as a super player? Roy Keane made him look like nothing in 1999.
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