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Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
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Per weight category, you can optain classifications. These give an idea of what level you are at and how you should compare.
These classifications are :

class 3 : possibly best of a town population
class 2 : possibly best of city population
class1 : possibly best of a region (on average)
candidate master of sport(CMD) : acceptable for national competition
master of sport (MS): competitive for national champion, acceptable for international competition
international master(MSIC) of sport : competitive for international champion

You fall in the -83 kilogram category.

Class 3 is 352.5, so you are 7.5kg away from that.



To look at lifts individually, there is also a classification per weightclass for benchpress. This gives an idea of how your squat/deadlift is comparing to the bench, to detect the weaker lift.

Your bench is 110. Class 3 is 102.5. So benchpress is your strong point
Thanks for this man, is there a website I can refer to to save asking again? I don't think i'll compete for a while a, just to good to know how I far away I am. The guys at my gym at the moment are national athletes in the 105kg classifications of I feel like I'm lifting nothing, when they're cleaning 150kgs!

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Finally managed to do 5 one arm chin-ups. I could feel my right forearm tearing apart!
Gnarly dude!
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,352
Per weight category, you can optain classifications. These give an idea of what level you are at and how you should compare.
These classifications are :

class 3 : possibly best of a town population
class 2 : possibly best of city population
class1 : possibly best of a region (on average)
candidate master of sport(CMD) : acceptable for national competition
master of sport (MS): competitive for national champion, acceptable for international competition
international master(MSIC) of sport : competitive for international champion

You fall in the -83 kilogram category.

Class 3 is 352.5, so you are 7.5kg away from that.



To look at lifts individually, there is also a classification per weightclass for benchpress. This gives an idea of how your squat/deadlift is comparing to the bench, to detect the weaker lift.

Your bench is 110. Class 3 is 102.5. So benchpress is your strong point


What are your numbers, Zach?
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
What are your numbers, Zach?
Practice meet 22 May 2015 :

Squat : 240
Benchpress : 160 (class3, 2.5kg away from class2)
Deadlift : 300
Total==700 (CMS, 7.5kg away from MS) N°1 in Belgium, Tim Devits, totals 750, but is 36(end of peak), while i'm 29(peak starts at 31).
Bodyweight=119.6
Wilks coefficient=402.3


I'm midway my current schedule (next practice meet is 24 october), and i have to max on squat next thursday, and benchpress+deadlift next saturday.

Yesterday i've done a new squat "double" pr with 2*230kg, first time since meet i've used a belt.

Hoping to see 250-255 squat, 165-170 bench and 310-315 deadlift next week.

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Thanks for this man, is there a website I can refer to to save asking again?
Yeah, Sheiko forum has the tables

http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=3.0

Check Ukraine tables.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,352
I've never deadlifted over 150 and I don't think I've ever squatted over 80. I've never done a max effort on either lift though, mostly because I just do a little lifting to keep my joints healthy and strong. I think lifting 300 kg would have the opposite effect.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Not certainly, but possibly yeah.

For example i'm the only guy in Belgium who deadlifts 300 and never had any serious back injury. I think you gotto be build for it


But when i'd have certain injuries, other muscles can compensate in daily life without the problem spreading. Most people who have a back injury have other muscles compensating, wich aggrevates the issue.
I had the grand total of 1 small back injury, and the only thing i couldnt do what train. It had zero impact on my life outside the gym.
Normally people with a small tear in the lower back, would have the greatest difficulting performing simple tasks

For this reason, in the US, alot of physical coaching is done to people who are developping possible back issues. Core strengthening and safe powerlifting training.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,352
Yes of course. Deadlifts can be extremely beneficial for people with back problems. You need a strong back. But I think most benefits end somewhere between 100-150 kgs for average people.

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Whenever I read this thread I'm always amazed at how much Zach knows about this stuff.
You don't deadlift over 300 kgs without knowing something about it.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,516
You don't deadlift over 300 kgs without knowing something about it.
I know dedicated gym freaks, bodybuilders and some lifters. They talk ALOT about about diet etc, but Zach is the most meticolously knowlegeable about every little detail I noticed so far. Maybe its because I encounter him online instead of in person, where I dont go into indepth talks with the others as much, but still, this belgian nutcase knows his shit it seems.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,352

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Online I can rewrite my post 5 times to shorten it. Irl I tend to go to much in depth.


Yday someone asked about antibiotics and training.

When I wrote it down, its a 2 minute read.

When I told it to myself in acceptable detail, around 10-15 minutes
 

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