Gym and fitness (27 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

Your PT isn't wrong there, you just want to watch how the jump is affecting your catching position. And as I said, if you are having trouble stopping your legs splitting out, try a slightly narrower starting position to begin.

Those flexibility/mobility exercises are a pain in the ass to do, but they really do help for the future, as the ability to have full ROM is so important for dropping under the bar.

Keep up the good work dude.

 

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[Seven]

Football season is under way. I'm going to see how I do with just running and push ups/pull ups for a while. My legs tend to need rest days after deadlifts and squats and in season there hardly are any. Can't really bother to lift weights if I can't deadlift.

 

[Zacheryah]

"There is no reason to be alive, if you cant do deadlifts"


But when you work on frequency, you can blast quote alot once tendons and ligaments stop beeing pussy

 

[Seven]

"There is no reason to be alive, if you cant do deadlifts"


But when you work on frequency, you can blast quote alot once tendons and ligaments stop beeing pussy

As much as I love deadlifts I have to admit that I take too long to recover from them to do them during the season. Sucks, but it is what it is.

 

[JCK]

As much as I love deadlifts I have to admit that I take too long to recover from them to do them during the season. Sucks, but it is what it is.

You should do back bends for stretching, works charms for recovering from deadlifts or any other back workout.

 

[Seven]

You should do back bends for stretching, works charms for recovering from deadlifts or any other back workout.

It's my legs that are destroyed after deadlifts though, not my back.

 

[Martin]

Well, nothing better to reinforce the value of stretching than doing a workout that makes you hurt like hell. Two days ago I did a 15min workout which was tough, but I felt fine afterwards. The next morning my legs hurt more than after a 60km bike trip. I did stretch after but it didn't seem to help much. Today is better but I'm still all sore.

I guess this means I have a lot to learn about stretching.

 

[Seven]

Well, nothing better to reinforce the value of stretching than doing a workout that makes you hurt like hell. Two days ago I did a 15min workout which was tough, but I felt fine afterwards. The next morning my legs hurt more than after a 60km bike trip. I did stretch after but it didn't seem to help much. Today is better but I'm still all sore.

I guess this means I have a lot to learn about stretching.

Yes. Stretching is useless to prevent or recover from DOMS. You have now learnt everything about stretching.

 

[Martin]

Also, last night I played dodge ball (best. game. evar.) and now my right arm (throwing arm) feels like I work on a demolition crew swinging demolition balls by hand.

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Yes. Stretching is useless to prevent or recover from DOMS. You have now learnt everything about stretching.

What are you saying? That it only works if you do it after the work out, before DOMS sets in?

Or that it's useless altogether?

 

[Seven]

Also, last night I played dodge ball (best. game. evar.) and now my right arm (throwing arm) feels like I work on a demolition crew swinging demolition balls by hand.

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What are you saying? That it only works if you do it after the work out, before DOMS sets in?

Or that it's useless altogether?

It is useless altogether if you're doing it because you want to prevent DOMS. The only benefit of stretching is that it increases flexibility. Whether or not you need more flexibility depends on your chosen activity. If you're doing gymnastics, odds are you do. If you just run around a bit, probably not.

EDIT: totally random reference, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21735398

 

[Martin]

It is useless altogether if you're doing it because you want to prevent DOMS. The only benefit of stretching is that it increases flexibility. Whether or not you need more flexibility depends on your chosen activity. If you're doing gymnastics, odds are you do. If you just run around a bit, probably not.

EDIT: totally random reference, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21735398

So what can you do about DOMS then?

 

[Seven]

So what can you do about DOMS then?

Not much. But if you do the same activity again, the DOMS will be much less. Personally I feel like ice baths may help, but honestly which amateur athlete is going to bother? Very mild activity may help you recover from DOMS too. Generally I'd advise to just take it easy until you feel good again.

 

[Martin]

Not much. But if you do the same activity again, the DOMS will be much less. Personally I feel like ice baths may help, but honestly which amateur athlete is going to bother? Very mild activity may help you recover from DOMS too. Generally I'd advise to just take it easy until you feel good again.

That could take half a week to a week though, right? In the exteme case.

Kinda long to wait.

 

[Seven]

That could take half a week to a week though, right? In the exteme case.

Kinda long to wait.

Depends on a lot of things. If it was the first time you worked out, I'm pretty sure you could do some light activity again after 2 days as your muscles are probably just sore because they weren't accustomed to the workout. I wouldn't overdo it though.

 

[Ford Prefect]

As much as I love deadlifts I have to admit that I take too long to recover from them to do them during the season. Sucks, but it is what it is.

Could always go hard on them for a month or two, get your PB up and then you'll be able to lift your current PB without issue. Problem solved

 

[Post Ironic]

Not much. But if you do the same activity again, the DOMS will be much less. Personally I feel like ice baths may help, but honestly which amateur athlete is going to bother? Very mild activity may help you recover from DOMS too. Generally I'd advise to just take it easy until you feel good again.

Like you say, stretching does fuck all for DOMS, and we won't get into our little battle over the other benefits of stretching again

You're right about ice baths. Hydrotherapy is amazing for DOMS. Not just ice baths, but contrast baths. You spend minimum 4 times longer in the hot bath than the ice bath. We used it in the kinesiology department at SFU with the higher level athletes there. It almost always helped relieve symptoms of DOMS and allowed for much faster muscular recovery.

 

[Seven]

Like you say, stretching does fuck all for DOMS, and we won't get into our little battle over the other benefits of stretching again

You're right about ice baths. Hydrotherapy is amazing for DOMS. Not just ice baths, but contrast baths. You spend minimum 4 times longer in the hot bath than the ice bath. We used it in the kinesiology department at SFU with the higher level athletes there. It almost always helped relieve symptoms of DOMS and allowed for much faster muscular recovery.

But like I said, which amateur athletes has the possibility to take ice baths, let alone contrast baths?

I am looking at footage from the Crossfit games. What is that shit? Some of the athletes looked like they were about to die. And when you hear the medical bulletin, some of them actually came close. Got to love how rhabdo is now suddenly something that "happens all the time in all sports".

 

[Nzoric]

Went for a run yesterday, first in a month or so. My thighs are fucking killing me Considering taking the bus to uni instead of the usual 8km bikeride (which is nothing!)

 

[Post Ironic]

But like I said, which amateur athletes has the possibility to take ice baths, let alone contrast baths?

I am looking at footage from the Crossfit games. What is that $#@!? Some of the athletes looked like they were about to die. And when you hear the medical bulletin, some of them actually came close. Got to love how rhabdo is now suddenly something that "happens all the time in all sports".

That's exactly it. I don't have access to contrast baths anymore, and it kind of sucks. I've tried to make them at home, but it's impossible to get that much ice going at home.

Crossfit is ridiculous. The fact they're doing races with across a field doing like 100+ O-lifts in a row is hilariously stupid. They actually treat rhabdo as a joke, and have a rhabdo clown dude t-shirt thing.

 

[Seven]

That's exactly it. I don't have access to contrast baths anymore, and it kind of sucks. I've tried to make them at home, but it's impossible to get that much ice going at home.

Crossfit is ridiculous. The fact they're doing races with across a field doing like 100+ O-lifts in a row is hilariously stupid. They actually treat rhabdo as a joke, and have a rhabdo clown dude t-shirt thing.

What's even more worrisome is that they perform what should be highly tecnical lifts after a grueling run. Even if you'd be a highly skilled athlete, which they are not, you'd perform them poorly.

I don't understand why they focus on elite athletes and producing the "fittest" man on Earth either. Crossfit should be about making people healthy through general movements. Create bodies that can run a 5K, but can also deadlift 140 kg. Just generally healthy people. It's stupid to make it about elite athletes, because their athletes are incredibly mediocre at actual sports. Imagine a crossfit athlete going up against Usain Bolt or trying to compete with actual gymnasts. It would look very ugly.