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Lapa

FLY, EAGLES FLY
Sep 29, 2008
20,044
Believe me, Ciro is staying. Media (Italian media?) is just trying to make some presure to make things happen.
 

Adrian

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2003
6,872
Is there a chance that a man like hiddink could come in to help steady the ship while Ciro learns off him?

May be the case where Hiddink is the head coach for 2 seasons with Ciro taking over after that? A similar deal was done here in Australia with a AFL team.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
Is there a chance that a man like hiddink could come in to help steady the ship while Ciro learns off him?

May be the case where Hiddink is the head coach for 2 seasons with Ciro taking over after that? A similar deal was done here in Australia with a AFL team.
And i thought that was/going to be horrible for them, especially the way it was structured. A big no thank you from me, a ship should only have one captain.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
I dont believe that Hiddink is coming, because the people running this club are bigger idiots that the captain of the Titanic, who slammed into an iceberg....and we all know what happened next

We're heading in the same direction...minus Leonardo DiCaprio though
 

Adrian

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2003
6,872
was it the captain's fault or was it the dude up the top there who was meant to be looking out because the weather was poor??

Lets hope the idiots end up like Leo and the ones we want to keep make it on those life boats.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
was it the captain's fault or was it the dude up the top there who was meant to be looking out because the weather was poor??

Lets hope the idiots end up like Leo and the ones we want to keep make it on those life boats.
Or was it the owner of the ship who seduced the captain into trying to beat the speed record?
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,440
I dont believe that Hiddink is coming, because the people running this club are bigger idiots that the captain of the Titanic, who slammed into an iceberg....and we all know what happened next

We're heading in the same direction...minus Leonardo DiCaprio though
but we got asthon kutcher:shifty:
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
Guus lift us up where we belonnnnnnnnnng
Where the eagles cry, on a mountain high
Guus lift us up where we belonnnnnnnng
Far from the world we know
Up where the clear winds blow
Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun :mark:
 
Mar 28, 2007
2,272
From Goaldotcom. sorry for posting this.

Calcio Debate: Is Guus Hiddink The Man To Resurrect Juventus?

Guus Hiddink has become something of a Messiah for teams whose struggles leave them hopeless. He has transcended to that sort of a Father-figure who would sit (or stand) on the other side of the Confession Box and absolve those who come to him and confess their sins, even people who shouldn't be.

He did something like this with the South Korean team, whom he took, against all logical reason but with a huge helping hand from the referees, to the semi-finals of the 2002 World Cup. He would soon lead PSV Eindhoven to the semi-finals of the Champions League and was actually on the verge of transporting Australia (yes Australia!) to the elite last eight stage in Germany in the 2006 World Cup. In 2008 he weaved another miracle as Russia reached the semis of Euro 2008.

Then in 2009 Hiddink almost scripted a footballing fairytale when he managed Chelsea for less than four months. Eventually the Blues didn't win anything except the FA Cup, were controversially ousted from the Champions League by Barcelona and couldn't catch Manchester United in the league but as one columnist put it, "With little time and no transfer window open to him the interim appointee honed the existing side so that it was fitter, better organised and hungrier."

Which is why there is a growing consensus that Hiddink would be the perfect man to stern the Juventus ship. Which is why reports linking the Dutchman to Turin have not abated even after his agent's dismissal of any contract.

The Reasons For

When a team struggles for results, the coach shouldn't be the only one to blame: it's always a collective failure than individual disaster. But Ferrara's inexperience has leapt out of the cupboard and so has his inability to think creatively against unfavourable circumstances.

And this is where Hiddink enters. Over the years the 63-year-old has demonstrated that he has an almost mystical power of making heroes and legends of ordinary men. From South Korea to PSV to Australia to Russia, he has exhibited his uncanny and almost spooky ability to transform a collection of average and just above players into a frighteningly competitive team.

Juventus' ailment at the moment are akin to Chelsea's when Hiddink was shipped to London. At the time Chelsea were fourth in the Premier League and had collected just seven points from a possible 15 in the New Year. Juve are out of the European Cup but are in the Europa League and are nine points off leaders Inter in Serie A.

Chelsea went onto finish third and actually defeated the then Claudio Ranieri-managed Juventus in the last 16 stage of the Champions League. Hiddink realised the core problems at the club, communicated marvellously with the players and squeezed out the best from everyone. Suddenly the likes of Didier Drogba and Florent Malouda underwent resurrection; the mentality altered and so did the results. Suspicion is that it could happen at Juve with half of the team struggling and looking short of ideas and imagination.

The Reasons Against

But appointing Hiddink as the new coach of the Bianconeri would imply the dismissal of Ferrara, who has been at the Olimpico only since the tail-end of last season. For a club to garner success over a period of time, it needs continuity and by shrugging Ferrara off their shoulders Juve would be breaking that continuity. Since the end of the 2005-06 campaign when Italy's biggest club were sent down to Serie B, Juve have had four coaches: that's four coaches in just three and a half years.

Moreover, Juve's season will be half-resurrected only if they win something. The Scudetto is unlikely and the Europa League is a lottery. And for all talks of Hiddink being a reformer and transformer, he hadn't won any domestic competition outside his native Netherlands until he led Chelsea to the FA Cup triumph. Moreover, the only trophy he had won with a foreign club was the Intercontinental Cup with Real Madrid in 1998.

Furthermore, Hiddink doesn't stick very long. He apparently sees his jobs as 'projects': it is in moulding a team for short-term success that he excels at. Hiddink takes up a job with a clean objective and once that is fulfilled - and he almost always fulfils his objectives - he flies away like a bird out of a cage. A short-term contract could work wonders for Juve but what after Hiddink leaves, say, in the summer of 2009? Another new coach?

Hiddink's problems with big and nonconforming personalities are well documented. He sent Edgar Davids home during Euro '96 and didn't bother to eclipse his opinion about Madrid's boardroom policies when he was at the Bernabeu. True, it was his presence and man-management skills that galvanized a disunited and disillusioned Chelsea squad after Luiz Felipe Scolari left the Blues in tatters and at Juve there hasn't been much open dissident under Ferrara, but with figures such as Alessandro Del Piero, David Trezeguet, Amauri and Sebastian Giovinco not always getting the games and Felipe Melo booed by his own supporters, it is an accident waiting to happen.

Which Juventus cannot afford. And neither can they afford to go barren for the third successive season in the Italian top flight since their return. Caught between the devil and the deep blue season, what will Juventus do? And what should Juventus do?

Subhankar Mondal


sorry if i post this. just want you guys to share the opinion. cheers and happy new year!
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
Guus lift us up where we belonnnnnnnnnng
Where the eagles cry, on a mountain high
Guus lift us up where we belonnnnnnnng
Far from the world we know
Up where the clear winds blow
Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun :mark:

The Guus, The Guus, The Guus is on fire,
We dont want motherfucking Ciro,
burn Ciro burn, burn motherfucker burn.
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
I know there's only, only one like you
There's no way they could have made two
Guus you're may not be reality
But I'm lost in a-a-a a dream
You're the first, you're the last, to lead our team


Barry White :weee:
 
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