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Group C

  • England

  • USA

  • Algeria

  • Slovenia


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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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He is a lesser of troll than you are Andy. You say Italy can only win through cheating which is obviously a wrong statement. You keep saying it here and there, you keep mentioning it in the Azzurri thread. If you hate them so much yet you spend a lot of time there to annoy their fans you are a troll. Now this guy is saying that the US can only score if the opponents' players make mistakes which is definitely wrong but why should he have even cared about USA if you hadn't forced him into doing the same thing you do to the team he likes on a regular basis?
Grosso won a penalty by diving. Sorry, that's just a fact.
 

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juventus1897

Senior Member
Sep 19, 2006
618
I don't complain about the Azzurri that much. I complain about their fans because many of them are just like you. At least get it right. Even before the win in 2006 they were nothing but whiners who thought they deserved the world on a platter.

Again, you reap what you sew. Blame yourself.
Yeah I bet you know alot more tifosi personally than me :lol: Have you even ever been outside the US? Do you speak any other language than English? Jesus, get a clue man. You're judging a whole nation of supporters based on some forum posts, that's just ridiculous.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Grosso won a penalty by diving. Sorry, that's just a fact.
But it doesn't mean Italy wouldn't have won that game. Not to forget that Materzzai shouldn't have been sent off in the first place. The ref made the first mistake there. Oh and above all, it doesn't mean that Italy only need the refs' help to win their games.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,318
Grosso won a penalty by diving. Sorry, that's just a fact.
Yes, but Materazzi was sent of for virtually nothing at the beginning of the half. Australia did fuck all, they deserved to go home.

And if we're going to say that one lousy call constitutes cheating, I think you really need to take a closer look at 2002. If Italy were sore losers in 2002, what were the Australians in 2006? Italy had five goals taken from them, got a red card instead of a penalty and had three players either kicked or punched in the face with impunity in the same fucking game.

No offence, Andy, but we both know that it doesn't add up at all. I know you're just trying to take something from the Azzurri fans here, but if we're going to state facts, your argument looks rather poor.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Yeah I bet you know alot more tifosi personally than me :lol: Have you even ever been outside the US? Do you speak any other language than English? Jesus, get a clue man. You're judging a whole nation of supporters based on some forum posts, that's just ridiculous.
I respect real Italians. Those who I am talking about are the Azzurri fanboys.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
75,659
I meant no disrespect, but cmon, you gotta admit that in recent WC history, the USA were lucky to score against big teams. That happened to be England and Italy. How's that bashing the US team?
It's the way you did it. Just throwing off "the US only get lucky goals against decent teams" after a we get a big point. People would react (will) react similarly if someone does the same thing in the Azzurri thread.

And I've said that I agree, offense has been our achilles heel in the World Cup. But this year I think it's a bit different. This is our least difficult draw since 1994. Guys like Dempsey and Donovan seem to be in their prime and our strikers have speed and finishing skill our teams haven't possessed over the last two cups. Our management was cautious against England, but I don't blame him. I think you'll see a more offensive midfield and Edson Buddle up top against Slovenia.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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But it doesn't mean Italy wouldn't have won that game. Not to forget that Materzzai shouldn't have been sent off in the first place. The ref made the first mistake there. Above all, it doesn't mean that Italy only need the refs' help to win their games.
Of course not, but it was still a dive by Grosso. That changed the match far more than the other call you mentioned. Why? Well, that's pretty much obvious.
 

juventus1897

Senior Member
Sep 19, 2006
618
It's the way you did it. Just throwing off "the US only get lucky goals against decent teams" after a we get a big point. People would react (will) react similarly if someone does the same thing in the Azzurri thread.

And I've said that I agree, offense has been our achilles heel in the World Cup. But this year I think it's a bit different. This is our least difficult draw since 1994. Guys like Dempsey and Donovan seem to be in their prime and our strikers have speed and finishing skill our teams haven't possessed over the last two cups. Our management was cautious against England, but I don't blame him. I think you'll see a more offensive midfield and Edson Buddle up top against Slovenia.
Ok that first post by me was bullshit, I apologize for that.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,318
It's the way you did it. Just throwing off "the US only get lucky goals against decent teams" after a we get a big point. People would react (will) react similarly if someone does the same thing in the Azzurri thread.

And I've said that I agree, offense has been our achilles heel in the World Cup. But this year I think it's a bit different. This is our least difficult draw since 1994. Guys like Dempsey and Donovan seem to be in their prime and our strikers have speed and finishing skill our teams haven't possessed over the last two cups. Our management was cautious against England, but I don't blame him. I think you'll see a more offensive midfield and Edson Buddle up top against Slovenia.
Onyewu looked very poor against England IMO. I know what he's capable of.. at least I know what he was capable of, so I guess he could improve drastically, but if he doesn't you've got a problem there too.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Of course not, but it was still a dive by Grosso. That changed the match far more than the other call you mentioned. Why? Well, that's pretty much obvious.
Of course not, you can't say that. Italy had to play with one man down for the whole second half. It did change the game a lot. Italy would have never probably needed that call if they could play with 11 men all game long.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,943
Onyewu looked very poor against England IMO. I know what he's capable of.. at least I know what he was capable of, so I guess he could improve drastically, but if he doesn't you've got a problem there too.
I still don't think he's 100% fit. When Gooch is on his game and as long as he doesn't get pulled out wide, he's solid. He's not good enough to be a starter for Milan with their possession game and setup.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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Onyewu looked very poor against England IMO. I know what he's capable of.. at least I know what he was capable of, so I guess he could improve drastically, but if he doesn't you've got a problem there too.
He was shit in the first half, but in the second when we were under pressure he seemed to have found his timing and confidence. He made a few nice plays.

It's unfortunate he's been out for so long. From what I've seen, he keeps getting better as he plays more. I'm confident enough to say that I believe his play will continue the upward slope.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,318
Of course not, you can't say that. Italy had to play with one man down for the whole second half. It did change the game a lot. Italy would have never probably needed that call if they could play with 11 men all game long.
Yes, but a penalty in the last seconds of the game that goes in is quite decisive too ;).

But like I said, Australia had more than their fair share of luck.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,907
Yeah well, most of your knee-jerk statements about the Azzurri are more insulting to the real Italians than to the fanboys, ever thought about that?
You will see insults flying left, right and center towards England, France, Italy, Manchester United, Inter, Milan etc.
It's gonna be nice and the forum will look more civilized if we can ban all those insulting comments. But if not, then I see no reason why should the Azzurri be more privileged to Inter, Milan or France.

If you don't have the stomach for a joke and knee-jerk comments, then my experience in this forum tells me that Juventuz is a wrong forum for you or anyone else who can't take it.

The forum has its rules. Nowhere in those rules it is said that one can't say Fuck Inter or fuck the Azzurri.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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Of course not, you can't say that. Italy had to play with one man down for the whole second half. It did change the game a lot. Italy would have never probably needed that call if they could play with 11 men all game long.
One could argue that Matarazzi leaving the pitch early was a blessing for the Azzurri.:D
 

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