Gonzalo Higuaín (49 Viewers)

[il brutto]

I'm pretty sure we will get one. Already tried to get one last summer. It just didn't work out with Schick.

 

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[MikeM]

Sell Higuain and replace with who? Dybala?

Well you sell Higuain and replace him with a CM that costs 60M. Then Dybala plays CF and can he score 16 goals there?

 

[Fr3sh]

In the end Higuain scored 16 this year with the same team around him as last year. He still had Dybala beside him. But last year he scored 24.

Decline.

Of the 16, probably 12 or 13 would be scored by Quagliarella.

Not good enough. The decline is extremely visible and he should be sold before his value is 0.

Actually scored 19goals and had 6 assist.

 

[il brutto]

Well you sell Higuain and replace him with a CM that costs 60M. Then Dybala plays CF and can he score 16 goals there?

Bit simplistic. With that logic the new mid would need to replace the goals scored by Dybala.

 

[zizinho]

Bit simplistic. With that logic the new mid would need to replace the goals scored by Dybala.

or Dybala scores 40, because he gets a lot more opportunities now

 

[MikeM]

Bit simplistic. With that logic the new mid would need to replace the goals scored by Dybala.

Well if it's 4-3-3, then Costa and the LW play way further up the field and score more. But for sure we concede less as we've seen this year in the 4-3-3. Almost impenetrable.

 

[il brutto]

or Dybala scores 40, because he gets a lot more opportunities now

Assuming he gets more opportunities. I'm not sure he would.

I think Dybala is more suited to play as part of a duo. That way there is more to deal with for the centerbacks. Pretty sure anyways that Dybala himself likes the freedom to roam around the pitch. Playing him as an out and out striker would limit him imo.

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Well if it's 4-3-3, then Costa and the LW play way further up the field and score more. But for sure we concede less as we've seen this year in the 4-3-3. Almost impenetrable.

Costa doesn't strike me as someone who is going to become prolific a scorer, even if given more attacking freedom. Bernardeschi might and probably will.

I'm not against playing Dybi as a striker but would like to see more proof of him actually being able to play as a lone frontman before getting rid of our best striker. I have trust in Allegri and if he felt that Dybala is a better striker than Higuain I'm sure he would play him there. Clearly he doesn't.

 

[zizinho]

Assuming he gets more opportunities. I'm not sure he would.

I think Dybala is more suited to play as part of a duo. That way there is more to deal with for the centerbacks. Pretty sure anyways that Dybala himself likes the freedom to roam around the pitch. Playing him as an out and out striker would limit him imo.

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Costa doesn't strike me as someone who is going to become prolific a scorer, even if given more attacking freedom. Bernardeschi might and probably will.

I'm not against playing Dybi as a striker but would like to see more proof of him actually being able to play as a lone frontman before getting rid of our best striker. I have trust in Allegri and if he felt that Dybala is a better striker than Higuain I'm sure he would play him there. Clearly he doesn't.

i liked the new 433 we played recently as well, Cuads RB, Dybala RW and Costa LW. that way Dybala still stays centrally but a bit more to the right, and Cuadrado and Costa provide width and stretch the defense. but in this system, i would still rather someone else and not Higgy, someone who can take advantage of Costas and Cuadrados fantastic crosses

 

[MikeM]

i liked the new 433 we played recently as well, Cuads RB, Dybala RW and Costa LW. that way Dybala still stays centrally but a bit more to the right, and Cuadrado and Costa provide width and stretch the defense. but in this system, i would still rather someone else and not Higgy, someone who can take advantage of Costas and Cuadrados fantastic crosses

Well the 4-3-3 also fits Pjanic much better. The 4-4-2 is a disaster for him.

But no one seems to care about that either.

 

[il brutto]

i liked the new 433 we played recently as well, Cuads RB, Dybala RW and Costa LW. that way Dybala still stays centrally but a bit more to the right, and Cuadrado and Costa provide width and stretch the defense. but in this system, i would still rather someone else and not Higgy, someone who can take advantage of Costas and Cuadrados fantastic crosses

I do think we will get a good alternative for Higuain this summer. It's then up to that player to perform better than Higgy. Personally don't see Higuain giving up his spot just yet but someone pushing him would be welcomed.

I feel that Higuain has the habit of becoming a bit too relaxed at times. Thus far when challenged he has always responded. Allegri dropped him at the start of the season and he started performing then he was dropped from the Argentina squad and he again started performing.

 

[zizinho]

Well the 4-3-3 also fits Pjanic much better. The 4-4-2 is a disaster for him.

But no one seems to care about that either.

exactly. Pjanic has been sacrificed as well for this setup, all to fit in Higuain and Dybala together. Matuidi was an attempt to balance things out, but it didnt work out either. time to move on

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I do think we will get a good alternative for Higuain this summer. It's then up to that player to perform better than Higgy. Personally don't see Higuain giving up his spot just yet but someone pushing him would be welcomed.

I feel that Higuain has the habit of becoming a bit too relaxed at times. Thus far when challenged he has always responded. Allegri dropped him at the start of the season and he started performing then he was dropped from the Argentina squad and he again started performing.

well, we got linked to Morata, whos on ~7M wages at Chelsea. thats as much as Higuain and Dybala, and twice as much as Mandzukic, our previous competition for Higuain. dont think its a good idea to have 3 strikers as your highest paid players, when its pretty much impossible to fit them into the same lineup. then after Morata (who for reasons above i dont think would be coming as an alternative for Higuain), who else is there? can we afford to have a good enough to challenge Higuain player AND Higuain, since both would be expensive as fuck? would guys like Quagliarella/Balotelli make Higuain feel like he needs to work his ass off?

 

[piotrr]

FFS what i just found

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

exactly. Pjanic has been sacrificed as well for this setup, all to fit in Higuain and Dybala together. Matuidi was an attempt to balance things out, but it didnt work out either. time to move on

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well, we got linked to Morata, whos on ~7M wages at Chelsea. thats as much as Higuain and Dybala, and twice as much as Mandzukic, our previous competition for Higuain. dont think its a good idea to have 3 strikers as your highest paid players, when its pretty much impossible to fit them into the same lineup. then after Morata (who for reasons above i dont think would be coming as an alternative for Higuain), who else is there? can we afford to have a good enough to challenge Higuain player AND Higuain, since both would be expensive as fuck? would guys like Quagliarella/Balotelli make Higuain feel like he needs to work his ass off?

Isn't this down to how it's reported? Or am I thinking of Spain?

 

[zizinho]

Isn't this down to how it's reported? Or am I thinking of Spain?

what was reported?

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

what was reported?

Wages.

 

[il brutto]

well, we got linked to Morata, whos on ~7M wages at Chelsea. thats as much as Higuain and Dybala, and twice as much as Mandzukic, our previous competition for Higuain. dont think its a good idea to have 3 strikers as your highest paid players, when its pretty much impossible to fit them into the same lineup. then after Morata (who for reasons above i dont think would be coming as an alternative for Higuain), who else is there? can we afford to have a good enough to challenge Higuain player AND Higuain, since both would be expensive as fuck? would guys like Quagliarella/Balotelli make Higuain feel like he needs to work his ass off?

Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I see Allegri easily finding space for another quality attacker. We previously had Mandzo and Morata alternating and that worked well imo. Finding the room in the wage budget might be a bit problematic as you said but we'll see.

 

[PedroFlu]

I think Higuain has close to zero chance of being sold this offseason. So this Dybala as a CF possibility isn't even worthy being discussed.

 

[Juliano13]

I think Higuain has close to zero chance of being sold this offseason. So this Dybala as a CF possibility isn't even worthy being discussed.

Unfortunately this is probably true. Can't see any club being stupid enough to spend money on him.

 

[campionesidd]

Unfortunately this is probably true. Can't see any club being stupid enough to spend money on him.

Luckily Beppe isn't stupid enough to sell him either.

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@Fr3sh

Ok now you’re just trolling, or no one should listen to your opinion on Higuain

 

[zizinho]

Luckily Beppe isn't stupid enough to sell him either.

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Ok now you’re just trolling, or no one should listen to your opinion on Higuain

id actually love one of Balo/Quags as 2nd/3rd CF. and you know already i want a different starting CF and Higgy sold