Gonzalo Higuaín (47 apps, 8 goals in CL and 43% chance conversion rate) (17 Viewers)

[ZoSo]

Assuming Arsenal buy Higuain for 25m and beat us to the deal? Would you guys blame Marrotta for this or is it our turnover?!

I would blame us for beating around the bush looking for an installment deal, when we could offer the money that has been set aside for A particular signing. (Of course, only if we are genuinely interested in the player.) If Arsenal sign him, then it's not coz we didn't have the money for this deal IMO.

Imagine if we end up with no one or just Diamanti (which I still think is the most likely scenario no matter how hard I fap for Tevez).

People would still try to defend Marotta.

 

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[am0110]

There's only us to blame if we manage to lose him to freaking Arsenal.

It looks like we will, man the embarressment I will feel.

 

[Dadi-SK]

It looks like we will, man the embarressment I will feel.

Indeed it is embarrassing. Looks like Arsenal has finally decided to splash the cash and rightfully so. We can just sit back and watch in dissapointment.

 

[TheLaz]

still waiting for RM to speak news of that 9th july deadline with Juventus..

 

[Hydde]

If Arsenal sign him, then it's not coz we didn't have the money for this deal IMO.

This. Marotta and co. should go in and pounce, even if it will potentially be our only transfer. Is a NEEDED transfer. they have no options here.

Negotiate, find an agreeement tht suits real madrid and us, and splash the fuking money without regrets.

Look it at this way.... is better to lose some extra money in a not so optimal deal now..... than to be lamenting that missed goal needed to stay on the CL. Just think about it for a second Marotta!!.

Just splash the fukin money and go home. simple.

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Indeed it is embarrassing. Looks like Arsenal has finally decided to splash the cash and rightfully so. We can just sit back and watch in dissapointment.

Not if we convince both player and team. We still can do this. Is not that arsenal is that appealing..... if justit wasnt for that fuking league...they would be helplezz against us in this deal.

 

[Suns]

that charity event meeting is such cheap news. As if Marotta and Paratici are sitting there going "should we go to madrid or not? might as well wait for them to get here".

 

[Bianconero81]

They are too busy wasting time trying to wrap up the Ogbonha deal

Cuz signing a quality defender for depth is exactly what you should be focusing on, when you have just finished your second consecutive campaign in Serie A with the strongest defense, and by quite some margin :yao:

 

[baggio]

Seeing as we are now analysing hypothetical failed moves on 8th June can we perhaps add a little more context?

What if we sign Tevez or Jovetic instead? It's not the same answer, is it?
What if Arsenal really are offering £150,000 p/w (that's €9m p/a for us)? It's not the same answer, is it?

It would be a failure, whether or not we sign Jojo or Tevez, because Higuain is our number one target according to the same press revealing those salary figures. Added to the fact that we already have an agreement with the player. Very different scenario to lose out on a player you've been in advanced talks with, pretty much have an agreement with him and still manage to lose him to a comparatively smaller club just because you couldn't negotiate the transfer fee any better. Sorry to say, but this is how most big player deals close in Europe. Whether you're Arsenal or Juventus, you do negotiate, but then once you have a figure to play with, you bid that figure, not ask for schemes like loans and installments. I'm pretty sure that as things stand Madrid would rather sell to Arsenal than Juve, despite being 'friends' with us. It's funny we overlook our own approach every time somebody swoops in to close a deal better than we can.

Of course, I still hope we get our number 1 target, whoever he is, this season.

 

[Hydde]

It would be, whethere or not we sign Jojo or Tevez, because Higuain is our number one target according to the same press revealing those salary figures. Added to the fact that we already have an agreement with the player. Very different scenario to lose out on a player you've been in advanced talks with, pretty much have an agreement with him and still manage to lose him to a comparatively smaller club just because you couldn't negotiate the transfer fee any better. Sorry to say, but this is how most big player deals close in Europe. Whether you're Arsenal or Juventus, you do negotiate, but then once you have a figure to play with, you bid that figure, not ask for schemes like loans and installments. I'm pretty sure that as things stand Madrid would rather sell to Arsenal than Juve, despite being 'friends' with us. It's funny we overlook our own approach every time somebody swoops in to close a deal better than we can.

Of course, I still hope we get our number 1 target, whoever he is, this season.

Yup, because of that, theres just no time for Marotiness, not on this deal. Go in and go for the kill. Thats it.

I really like Marotta,s way to negotiate in some way, beause he understands the economical needs of the team. But right now, just right now... theres no window for that. Just a misused word or a stupid bargain demand and madrid can just turn to arsenal and sell asap.

 

[adRHCP]

If we can't get Higuaín then we should get Tevez! Wages shouldn't be a problem since we would only adding his "considerable" wages to our team alongside with Llorente, then I guess we could offer him 6M or so.

But still, I think we can get el Pipita :heart2:

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Oh, and if the '23M asking price for Higuaín' is true and we don't get him then that will be lame.

 

[Collaguazo]

http://www.marca.com/2013/06/08/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1370702240.html

Some good news according to Marca. Real is willing to sell Pipita and are hoping to resolve this issue by the end of next week. They are expecting bids from 25-30 million and Juve seems to be in pole position for this deal.

Marotta should be able to close this deal. Real want 30, Juve offer 25, seal the deal at 27,5

 

[JuveJay]

It would be a failure, whether or not we sign Jojo or Tevez

Not for me it wouldn't be, but then I'm not expecting two big strikers to arrive. Those who are can prepare for disappointment, and I'll ready myself for pleasant surprise.

because Higuain is our number one target according to the same press revealing those salary figures. Added to the fact that we already have an agreement with the player. Very different scenario to lose out on a player you've been in advanced talks with, pretty much have an agreement with him and still manage to lose him to a comparatively smaller club just because you couldn't negotiate the transfer fee any better. Sorry to say, but this is how most big player deals close in Europe. Whether you're Arsenal or Juventus, you do negotiate, but then once you have a figure to play with, you bid that figure, not ask for schemes like loans and installments. I'm pretty sure that as things stand Madrid would rather sell to Arsenal than Juve, despite being 'friends' with us. It's funny we overlook our own approach every time somebody swoops in to close a deal better than we can.

You can't speak about facts and then go through a scenario from the future. Unless you have a Tardis, perhaps? Didn't we also have an 'agreement' with Agüero and Van Persie? I'm quite sure we did, based on these 'factual' sources.

Doesn't matter our 'agreement' or the size or strength of competitors, if someone else comes in with more money for the transfer fee and/or wages then the selling club, player and agents are going to consider it.

Of course, I see the prevailing argument of 'just pay what they want', even though people know we do not operate that way. It's pretty damn obvious that you can sign a player by agreeing to the exact terms requested on every transfer, but then we are not running this show like the Secco days anymore. Madrid say 30, we say 20, and then we aim for 25, that's a transfer negotiation and not at all unreasonable for our club.

 

[IrishZebra]

I want.

 

[Carlos Primera]

I would be extremely vexed if we lost him to Arsenal. If it was PSG/Citeh, then it would be understandble, but fucking Arsenal? I have worshipped at the great ones altar for the past 2 years, but I would curse him and his line through the millenia if we lost out to Arsenal. Only a singning like Luisito would mak up for it.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

http://www.marca.com/2013/06/08/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1370702240.html

Some good news according to Marca. Real is willing to sell Pipita and are hoping to resolve this issue by the end of next week. They are expecting bids from 25-30 million and Juve seems to be in pole position for this deal.

Marotta should be able to close this deal. Real want 30, Juve offer 25, seal the deal at 27,5

although its marca, sure as hell sounds more reliable than that bluradio garbage

 

[TheLaz]

I would be extremely vexed if we lost him to Arsenal. If it was PSG/Citeh, then it would be understandble, but $#@!ing Arsenal? I have worshipped at the great ones altar for the past 2 years, but I would curse him and his line through the millenia if we lost out to Arsenal. Only a singning like Luisito would mak up for it.

He fueled the talks og a move just today. Expect the media to link us one or two times again

 

[JuveJay]

Why does the team matter? Isn't it the offer?

Hypothetical situation; we offer €27m and Arsenal offer something like €35m? €40m? €8m salary? Pick any number. Are we still pissed, or is it only if we lose the deal by a couple of million or so?

Arsenal have significantly more profit from this summer onwards, so their stingy recent past doesn't matter. The irony is that Wenger operates like Marotta on deals.

 

[j0ker]

Why does the team matter? Isn't it the offer?

Hypothetical situation; we offer €27m and Arsenal offer something like €35m? €40m? €8m salary? Pick any number. Are we still pissed, or is it only if we lose the deal by a couple of million or so?

Arsenal have significantly more profit from this summer onwards, so their stingy recent past doesn't matter. The irony is that Wenger operates like Marotta on deals.

Only in that case, because I understand we can't afford wages more than 6mln and 30+mln transfer fee.

 

[Bianconero81]

Let's close the Tevez deal first, since it's a golden opportunity. 12 Million for a WC striker (if reports are to be believed) is a steal. We can then focus on Higuain for 23-25 Million, and forget guys like Zaza, Diamanti, Osvaldo, and other shits that Marotta seems to gravitate towards as we enter the month of August.

 

[Ahmed]

indeed, because Marotta spends his entire time working on one deal at a time.