Goal Scorers Against our Main Rivals in recent Times (1 Viewer)

Respaul

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Jul 14, 2002
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Over the last 9 seasons (94/95 - 02/03) against our 4 main rivals (Milan,Inter,Roma,Lazio) Juve have scored 94 goals in 72 matches in Serie A... having 27 different scorers plus 3 own goals in our favour.


Goals Scored over 9 seasons against our 4 rivals :

18 - Del Piero
09 - Inzaghi
07 - Zidane
05 - Conte, Vieri, Padovano
04 - Amoruso, Tudor, Trezeguet
03 - Ravanelli, Jugovic, Kovacevic, Nedved, Vialli
02 - Davids, Henry
01 - Baggio, Marocchi, Grabbi, Lombardo, Deschamps, Fonseca, Iuliano, Tachinardi, DiVaio, Thuram,Camoranesi

Goals Scored over 9 Seasons against Lazio :

5 - Del Piero
3 - Padovano
2 - Amoruso, Henry
1 - Marocchi, Grabbi, Deschamps, Conte, Vieri, Inzaghi, Tudor, Trezeguet, Nedved

Goals Scored over 9 Seasons against Inter :

4 - Del Piero
2 - Zidane, Inzaghi, Kovacevic, Trezeguet
1 - Vialli, Lombardo, Conte, Jugovic, Tachinardi, Tudor, Nedved, Camoranesi

Goals Scored over 9 Seasons against Roma :

5 - Del Piero
3 - Zidane
2 - Ravanelli, Padovano, Vieri, Davids
1 - Vialli, Amoruso, Iuliano, Inzaghi, Nedved

Goals Scored over 9 Seasons against Milan :

5 - Inzaghi
4 - Del Piero
3 - Conte
2 - Jugovic, Zidane, Vieri, Tudor
1 - Baggio, Ravanelli, Vialli, Amoruso, Fonseca, Kovacevic, Trezeguet, DiVaio, Thuram


Over the 9 Seasons we can see that Del Piero, Inzaghi and Zidane have been our most prolific players.
As well as being ahead on goals scored Del Piero is also miles ahead on assists against our main rivals.
(once I get my new opta password and time I will add the assist figures)


Now I hear you say... But only Del Piero was here all that time... Yes thats true though his early years he was not a starter and he has missed plenty through injury... But having said that I will break it down into 3 smaller chunks (3 Seasons each)... The early years, The Inzaghi Years and the trezeguet years.



The Early Years - 94/95 - 96/97 :

5 - Vieri, Padovano
3 - Ravanelli, Vialli, Del Piero, Jugovic, Amoruso, Conte
2 - Zidane
1 - Baggio, Marocchi, Grabbi, Deschamps, Lombardo


The Inzaghi Years - 97/98 - 99/00 :

7 - Del Piero, Inzaghi
3 - Kovacevic
2 - Zidane, Davids, Henry
1 - Amoruso, Conte, Iuliano, Fonseca

Del Piero equal top scorer, leading Assister and nigh on a year out with injury



The Trezeguet Years - 00/01 - 02/03

8 - Del Piero
5 - Trezeguet
3 - Zidane, Tudor, Nedved
2 - Inzaghi
1 - DiVaio, Thuram, Camoranesi, Conte, Tachinardi

Del Piero Leading scorer and leading assister



A Quick look at the last campaign - 02/03 (also included above)

4 - Del Piero
3 - Nedved
1 - Camoranesi, DiVaio, Thuram, Tudor

Del Piero leading scorer, leading assister and several weeks out injured.



So over the last 9 seasons Del Piero has been our highest scorer and assister against the big teams in Serie A.
Over the last 6 Seasons Del Piero has been the top scorer and assister against our main rivals
The same over the last 3 seasons and even over the last complete season.

And all as a support forward not a striker and with many injuries.

As a support striker his job is to score goals and create others... both of which he has done over and above any other player.

How many players can bost an equal record as a support striker and especially in italy against the best teams?

I keep reading how Del Piero doesnt perform against the big teams , but who for juve has done better?
His job is too score and create, he has done all these things.

Also bear in mind he is one of the most heavily marked men in italy (the most in juve) one of the most fouled players... yet he still does his job,
People also forget that in games where hes heavily marked and seeming to do little he is keeping people busy and creating freedom for his unmarked team mates


Anyway only a few stats, but interesting anyway, and many other things can be seen as well... why has our main striker not been more prolific than his support? Inzaghi was more prolific against the big boys than trez who pushed him out etc etc

Comments?
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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#2
Thanks for the hard work Paul, very interesting stats. I'm more surprised at Zidane's scoring rate than Del Piero's.
 
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Respaul

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Jul 14, 2002
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I was as well... wasnt surprised by dps though, jus annoys me sometimes how people forget (even if yesterday) what dp does for us
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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Nice figure .. good job, BUT i'll only be satisfied if you show me:

How many of those goals (in big games) have been PKs?

If they are more than 50% of his goals in big games, then your theory is wack. (you can't compare all players if DP has the advantege of shooting the PKs) If not, then i'll fully agree.
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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i appretiate it :)

the ones i know about:

02/03: 1 Inter, 1 Roma
01/02: 1 Milan
00/01: none
99/00: none
98/99: 1 Inter
97/98: 1 Lazio, 1 Milan
 
Sep 28, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
i appretiate it :)

the ones i know about:

02/03: 1 Inter, 1 Roma
01/02: 1 Milan
00/01: none
99/00: none
98/99: 1 Inter
97/98: 1 Lazio, 1 Milan
that's not much. besides, it's trez who takes penalties when del piero is out. sometimes he can blame only himself for scoring fewer goals.
 

Desmond

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Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
If they are more than 50% of his goals in big games, then your theory is wack.
not really.even if you halve his 18 you'd still have 9 - a tie for 1st.

and besides,not everyone can score pks in high pressure situations.
 

nina

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Feb 18, 2001
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2002/2003 (played 24 games):

Inter-J: 1 (a penalty for a 1-1 draw)
J-Milan: / (goals from DV and Thuram for a 2-1 win)
Roma-J: 1 (goal also from Nedved for a 2-2 draw)
J-Lazio: / (goal from Nedved for a 1-2 defeat)
J-Inter: / (goals from Nedved, Camoranes and an AG for a 3-0 win)
Milan-J: / (goal from Nedved for a 2-1 defeat)
J-Roma: 2 (a penalty and a regular goal for a 2-1 win)
Lazio-J: / (0-0 draw)

2001/2002 (played 32 games):

Inter-J: / (goals from Trezeguet and Tudor for a 2-2 draw)
J-Milan: / (AG for a 1-0 win)
Roma-J: / (0-0 draw)
J-Lazio: / (goal from Trezeguet for a 1-1 draw)
J-Inter: / (0-0 draw)
Milan-J: 1 (a penalty for a 1-1 draw)
J-Roma: / (0-2 defeat)
Lazio-J: / (1-0 defeat)

2000/2001 (played 25 games):

Inter-J: / (goals from Trezeguet and Zidane for a 2-2 draw)
J-Milan: / (goals from Tudor, Inzaghi and Zidane for a 3-0 win)
Roma-J: / (0-0 draw)
J-Lazio: / (goal from Tudor for a 1-1 draw)
J-Inter: 1 (goals also from Tacchinardi and Inzaghi for a 3-1 win)
Milan-J: / (goals from Trezeguet and Conte for a 2-2 draw)
J-Roma: 1 (goal also from Zidane for a 2-2 draw)
Lazio-J: 1 (for a 4-1 defeat)

1999/2000 (played 34 games):

Inter-J: / (goal from Kovacevic 2x for a 1-2 win)
J-Milan: / (goals from Kovacevic, Inzaghi and Conte for a 3-1 win)
Roma-J: / (goal from Zidane for a 0-1 win)
J-Lazio: / (0-1 defeat)
J-Inter: / (goal from Inzaghi for a 1-0 win)
Milan-J: / (2-0 defeat)
J-Roma: / (goals from Inzaghi and Davids for a 2-1 win)
Lazio-J: / (0-0 draw)

1998/1999 (played 8 games):

Inter-J: / (0-0 draw)
J-Milan: / (0-2 defeat)
Roma-J: / (2-0 defeat)
J-Lazio: / (0-1 defeat)
J-Inter: 1 (for a 1-0 win)
Milan-J: / (goal from Fonseca for a 1-1 draw)
J-Roma: / (goal from Iuliano for 1-1 draw)
Lazio-J: / (goals from Henry 2x and Amoruso for a 1-3 win)

1997/1998 (played 32 games):

Inter-J: / (1-0 defeat)
J-Milan: 2 (goals also from Inzaghi 2x for a 4-1 win)
Roma-J: / (0-0 draw)
J-Lazio: 2 (a penalty and a regular goal for a 2-1 win)
J-Inter: 1 (for a 1-0 win)
Milan-J: / (goal from Inzaghi for a 1-1 draw)
J-Roma: 1 (goals also from Zidane and Davids for a 3-1 win)
Lazio-J: / (goal from Inzaghi for a 0-1 win)

1996/1997 (played 22 games):

Inter-J: / (0-0 draw)
J-Milan: / (0-0 draw)
Roma-J: / (goal from Padovano for a 1-1 draw)
J-Lazio: / (goals from Vieri and Amoruso for a 2-2 draw)
J-Inter: / (goals from Jugovic and Zidane for a 2-0 win)
Milan-J: / (goals from Jugovic 2x, Vieri 2x, Zidane and Amoruso for a 1-6 win)
J-Roma: / (goals from Vieri 2x and Amoruso for a 3-0 win)
Lazio-J: / (goals from Padovano 2x for a 0-2 win)

1995/1996 (played 29 games):

Inter-J: / (goals from Lombardo and Conte for a 1-2 win)
J-Milan: / (goal from Conte for a 1-1 draw)
Roma-J: / (goals from Padovano and an AG for a 2-2 draw)
J-Lazio: / (goals from Deschamps, Conte, Padovano and an AG for a 4-2 win)
J-Inter: / (goal from Vialli for a 1-0 win)
Milan-J: 1 (for a 2-1 defeat)
J-Roma: / (0-2 defeat)
Lazio-J: / (4-0 defeat)

1994/1995 (played 29 games):

Inter-J: / (0-0 draw)
J-Milan: / (a penalty scored by Baggio for a 1-0 win)
Roma-J: / (3-0 defeat)
J-Lazio: / (0-3 defeat)
J-Inter: / (0-0 draw)
Milan-J: / (goals from Ravanelli and Vialli for a 0-2 win)
J-Roma: / (goals from Ravanelli 2x and Vialli for a 3-0 win)
Lazio-J: 2 (goals also from Grabbi and Marocchi for a 3-4 win)

+ penalties
+ decisive goals, that were either equalizers or brought us the win; now I know this is very subjective so beware because who knows how important his goal was if it was scored 1st and later followed by other goals from his teammates;

Juventus1897.it

P.S. You also have to consider that he didn't play in all those games. I couldn't find the line-ups for each game.
 
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Respaul

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by rae ACM ] ++

basically yeah, but I guess you are not:LOL:
Im not!
I may be alone here in thinking this, but I feel keeping trez and offloading pippo was a massive mistake... id take pippo over trez everytime
 

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