Global Financial Crisis (8 Viewers)

j0ker

Capo di tutti capi
Jan 5, 2006
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Many factors. First of all, Ukraine applied to NATO in 2008 which is basically anti-Russia alliance. Mind you that back in the 80's Russia had half of Berlin and in XXI there are tens of thousands of US troops in Central - Eastern Europe (Poland, Baltic Countries, Romania etc). Now NATO wants to get Ukraine and Belarus too and anybody expected Russia to sit back?

Secondly, gas pipes are going through Ukraine and Russia is dependent on the sale of its natural resources. If US controls Ukraine they can easily block it.
Great analysis, would read again 10/10.

1. NATO does not accept coutries that don't control all of their territories which was the case with Ukraine.

2. Most of the Russian gas went through Nordstream (NOT Ukraine) and if US can control foreign countries so easily why they couldn't stop Germany and co. from buying it in the first place, would be much easier.

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Many factors. First of all, Ukraine applied to NATO in 2008 which is basically anti-Russia alliance. Mind you that back in the 80's Russia had half of Berlin and in XXI there are tens of thousands of US troops in Central - Eastern Europe (Poland, Baltic Countries, Romania etc). Now NATO wants to get Ukraine and Belarus too and anybody expected Russia to sit back?

Secondly, gas pipes are going through Ukraine and Russia is dependent on the sale of its natural resources. If US controls Ukraine they can easily block it.
NATO does not want to "get" anything.

Like you said, Ukraine applied. Ukraine is a sovereign state that is allowed to decide which treaties it wants to be part of.
 

The Quazis

Senior Member
Dec 21, 2012
5,114
Great analysis, would read again 10/10.

1. NATO does not accept coutries that don't control all of their territories which was the case with Ukraine.

2. Most of the Russian gas went through Nordstream (NOT Ukraine) and if US can control foreign countries so easily why they couldn't stop Germany and co. from buying it in the first place, would be much easier.

Think before typping - Sun Tzu
1. Bush to back Ukraine's Nato hopes

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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Connected was an euphemism. They have none of their own.

Anyway, that was not the point. I'm happy with Ukraine's existence but to claim that the war that's taking place there currently is for their independence, freedom, call it whatever you want, is ridiculous.
They just got invaded, you rambling imbecile. Of course it’s for their independence and freedom. If they lose the war, they are no longer a sovereign independent nation. It takes work to be this dumb. Congratz

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It's more America's hope than Russia's. Russia was perfectly fine selling their resources in Europe but US want Europe to buy their LNG which is waaaay more expensive than Russian gas. If Europe is going to be cut off from cheap energy there's no way they will be able to compete with US economically.

So USA came up with this war in Ukraine and uses its puppets like Poland and Baltic countries to keep it going.

Unpopular opinion - keep the wat and funny reactions flowing.
Wat a retard :lol2:
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
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Many factors. First of all, Ukraine applied to NATO in 2008 which is basically anti-Russia alliance. Mind you that back in the 80's Russia had half of Berlin and in XXI there are tens of thousands of US troops in Central - Eastern Europe (Poland, Baltic Countries, Romania etc). Now NATO wants to get Ukraine and Belarus too and anybody expected Russia to sit back?

Secondly, gas pipes are going through Ukraine and Russia is dependent on the sale of its natural resources. If US controls Ukraine they can easily block it.
And which of these did the invasion solve? Not mentioning the pandora box of new problems this opened
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
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you should see the governmental communication: as lgor wrote, it's all about sanctions killing the economy, stop bruxelles, stop oil/gas sanctions, while they fail to mention how the local currency rates were going for the majority of the war, or how governmental measures like personal income tax return (never happened before, only now prior to the recent elections) or the house/flat renovation program affected the inflation. populist motherfuckers

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they had to raise the base rate from around 3% to 13% in a year, and the only thing that stopped the huf from the free fall was that they started to offer governmental bonds with rates over the official inflation lol. so yeah, if you have money to spare for a few years, you might wanna look up pmáp (prémium magyar állampapír) for rates over 16% and counting :numnum:
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Fokking Messi jerseys.

@Bjerknes this has been circulating for the past week

So many people are clueless that asking questions about future novelties of an AI/ML is like asking Mark Zuckerberg for dating advice.

It's the computing equivalent of someone sticking their tongue in an electrical socket.

I’m worried most about Cathy Wood if it all comes down :lol3:
I would like to see Cathy go full-bore goblin mode though.

I would rather save her than Saylor.
Saylor keeps chasing dat white whale not realizing he's looking at a mirror.
 

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