pitbull

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Yeah. Would you mind if it means all these purchases and no keyplayer sale
except Cuadrado maybe
yes, I'd mind us spending all of the money on the attack and leaving pennies for midfield like it's some second priority for second summer in the row. I hope Marotta catches some miracle bargain or Bentancur/Bernardeschi/Rincon suddenly have a monster CM season, Matuidi-Pjanič hardly inspires confidence.
 

Zacheryah

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yes, I'd mind us spending all of the money on the attack and leaving pennies for midfield like it's some second priority for second summer in the row. I hope Marotta catches some miracle bargain or Bentancur/Bernardeschi/Rincon suddenly have a monster CM season, Matuidi-Pjanič hardly inspires confidence.
We dont really have a choice since we have no depth at all for 4 positions
 

Zacheryah

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At moment we have Pjaca, Schick and Orsolini (?). Id suggest buying Berna, top Cm, RB and then think if we can afford Costa and what will it cost us. Swap Berna and Costa if.it makes you feel better
I'll ask like i ask everyone

"which top cm, for what price ?"
What if Marchisio returns to his pre injury worldclass form ?



Pjaca, schick and orsolini are a bunch of fucking kids. Thats not depth at all


Costa is a quality, experienced winger. Berna is a serie a proven italian winger with huge potential



Obviously, we need those.
 

s4tch

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"which top cm, for what price ?"
What if Marchisio returns to his pre injury worldclass form ?
let's be realistic, marchisio is 31, had a nightmare injury, most possibly he won't return to his best form.

my priority would be:
1. a right back
2. fabinho
3. wingers
4. other depth options, market opportunities
 

pitbull

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I'll ask like i ask everyone

"which top cm, for what price ?"

What if Marchisio returns to his pre injury worldclass form ?

Pjaca, schick and orsolini are a bunch of fucking kids. Thats not depth at all

Costa is a quality, experienced winger. Berna is a serie a proven italian winger with huge potential

Obviously, we need those.
Obviously we need depth quality, but we need starting quality more, it's just a matter of priorities. It's stupid to splash 80% of our money on depth and then try to cover our very gaping holes in RB and CM with what we end up getting from the sales, Sturaro f.e. probably has a line of bum clubs as potential destination who'll negotiate hard to go from 5m to 6m and he's not even our most useless player

which cm? I don't have access to real information, but from those who look like moving, I like both N'Zonzi and Fabinho more than I like Matuidi. Matič is a similar level player to Matuidi imo, but younger which is a big advantage. I'd rather have the best starting option available even if it means spending 20m more than for a slightly worse option, let's save money other things, not our starting 11
 

Zacheryah

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let's be realistic, marchisio is 31, had a nightmare injury, most possibly he won't return to his best form.

my priority would be:
1. a right back
2. fabinho
3. wingers
4. other depth options, market opportunities
Fabinho isnt what we need

Rightback is less important than wingers

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Obviously we need depth quality, but we need starting quality more, it's just a matter of priorities. It's stupid to splash 80% of our money on depth and then try to cover our very gaping holes in RB and CM with what we end up getting from the sales, Sturaro probably has a line of bum clubs as potential destination who'll negotiate hard to go from 5m to 6m

which cm? I don't have access to real information, but from those who look like moving, I like both N'Zonzi and Fabinho more than I like Matuidi. Matič is a similar level player imo, but younger than Matuidi which also is an advantage
A team that wrecked its way towards '45 away from a trebble has awesome starting quality.

Buying an insane midfielder and lacking depth again, brings you nowhere

we need everything, so we are spreading the cash
 

The Quazis

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Not? I think he and his defensive skills besides Pjanic would make a sexy couple..
He would be good but he's too expansive. While I can see us low-balling Sevilla due to N'Zonzi age (his last chance to play for a big team and get the wages Sevilla cannot offer), Fabinho is relatively young at 24 and in no hurry to leave. Plus, there surely would be more suitors than just us.
 

pitbull

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He would be good but he's too expansive. While I can see us low-balling Sevilla due to N'Zonzi age (his last chance to play for a big team and get the wages Sevilla cannot offer), Fabinho is relatively young at 24 and in no hurry to leave. Plus, there surely would be more suitors than just us.
We're a top 3 club in Europe that provides a chance to play with champions and legends of the game, I wouldnt be too scared about competition from EPL or Inter or whatever
 

The Quazis

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We're a top 3 club in Europe that provides a chance to play with champions and legends of the game, I wouldnt be too scared about competition from EPL or Inter or whatever
Neither am I. It's just the fact we seem to be more willing to invest the money in D. Costa & Berna. Therefore our funds for CM and RB are limited.
 

s4tch

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neither costa or bernardeschi are guarantees. these are not top10 players in their positions, and my guess is that costa doesn't even have the potential to become one. at least bernardeschi does have the talent.

fabinho is class, and can play 2 positions on a high level. i'd take him over any winger we've been linked with so far. bernardo silva, dembelé, alexis sanchez or even insigne would be dope, but i won't shit myself if we signed costa and/or berna.

also, @Zacheryah now we have licht and barza as potential right backs. these guys served more than well in the past couple of years, they are true le6ends :touched: , but have a combined age of 87 years, and are way past their primes. getting a right back is an absolute must.
 

duranfj

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neither costa or bernardeschi are guarantees. these are not top10 players in their positions, and my guess is that costa doesn't even have the potential to become one. at least bernardeschi does have the talent.

fabinho is class, and can play 2 positions on a high level. i'd take him over any winger we've been linked with so far. bernardo silva, dembelé, alexis sanchez or even insigne would be dope, but i won't $#@! myself if we signed costa and/or berna.

also, @Zacheryah now we have licht and barza as potential right backs. these guys served more than well in the past couple of years, they are true le6ends :touched: , but have a combined age of 87 years, and are way past their primes. getting a right back is an absolute must.
I even think we need more someone like Fabinho and a new RB than someone like Berna or Costa
 

Zacheryah

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neither costa or bernardeschi are guarantees. these are not top10 players in their positions, and my guess is that costa doesn't even have the potential to become one. at least bernardeschi does have the talent.

fabinho is class, and can play 2 positions on a high level. i'd take him over any winger we've been linked with so far. bernardo silva, dembelé, alexis sanchez or even insigne would be dope, but i won't shit myself if we signed costa and/or berna.

also, @Zacheryah now we have licht and barza as potential right backs. these guys served more than well in the past couple of years, they are true le6ends :touched: , but have a combined age of 87 years, and are way past their primes. getting a right back is an absolute must.
You are grotesquely underestimating how good Costa was under Guardiola. And Bernadeschi will surprise you


Yeah we need a rightback. But there isnt one for a correct price.


Fabinho will go for insane money.



I'd like Danilo, Cancela, Pereira. Spinazzola/Darmian/DeS as a backup for that

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Not? I think he and his defensive skills besides Pjanic would make a sexy couple..
He would be an absolute beast in a 3man midfield
 
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You are grotesquely underestimating how good Costa was under Guardiola. And Bernadeschi will surprise you


Yeah we need a rightback. But there isnt one for a correct price.


Fabinho will go for insane money.



I'd like Danilo, Cancela, Pereira. Spinazzola/Darmian/DeS as a backup for that

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He would be an absolute beast in a 3man midfield
I would take Cancelo without thinking at 25 Mil.
 

s4tch

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You are grotesquely underestimating how good Costa was under Guardiola. And Bernadeschi will surprise you


Yeah we need a rightback. But there isnt one for a correct price.


Fabinho will go for insane money.
fabinho will go around the 50m mark, and that's a fair price on today's market for a proven player i guess. i'm not sure about prices anymore, that's an inflated market on a level never seen before. bernardeschi should better surprise me for the same amount... costa was great with lucescu, i give him that, but even with guardiola, i wasn't too impressed.
 
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Why do people act like we are going to start Licht? We are buying someone its just a matter of who. If Costa is truly on the loan with an option that is perfect. He adds so much to us in terms of pace and countering abilities. He can play on both sides and really its like we are getting next years purchase a year early so we can have money for a rb and other depth up top.

Why are people so upset about Costa. Who do people want as a winger? or we should just stick with what we had and add cheap depth? People think that our mids were the problem an the second half but I disagree. They werent the main issue. We had no ability to stretch Real. Costa can do that.
Also you talk about buying depth and not starters. Do you think Costa and Berna are brought in for super sub roles? I hope thats not the intention. They will be brought in to upgrade the attack and give us more options.

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2017/06...-down-the-right-before-dominating-that-flank/
 

beowulf

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neither costa or bernardeschi are guarantees. these are not top10 players in their positions, and my guess is that costa doesn't even have the potential to become one. at least bernardeschi does have the talent.

fabinho is class, and can play 2 positions on a high level. i'd take him over any winger we've been linked with so far. bernardo silva, dembelé, alexis sanchez or even insigne would be dope, but i won't $#@! myself if we signed costa and/or berna.

also, @Zacheryah now we have licht and barza as potential right backs. these guys served more than well in the past couple of years, they are true le6ends :touched: , but have a combined age of 87 years, and are way past their primes. getting a right back is an absolute must.
I just don't get it. It seems like no one watched to see the weakness this last team had. I like both, but a counter attack with Mr No and Cuardrado just isn't good enough
 

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