Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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A lot of people on this forum are between 25 and 35. People from that generation are going to have great memories of the Juventus between 1994 and 2006. That's why they might claim a team from that era is a lot better than what we have now. Truth is we are on a very similar level. For example Lichtsteiner is every bit as good as Zambrotta ever was, but people from that generation simply prefer Zambrotta because they are nostalgic.
Not the point you are making, but licht is criminally underrated at times.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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A lot of people on this forum are between 25 and 35. People from that generation are going to have great memories of the Juventus between 1994 and 2006. That's why they might claim a team from that era is a lot better than what we have now. Truth is we are on a very similar level. For example Lichtsteiner is every bit as good as Zambrotta ever was, but people from that generation simply prefer Zambrotta because they are nostalgic.
Holy shit.

You knowt hats not remotely true, jesus christ
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Sorry, but comparing Licht to Zambrotta is laughable.
This is one of the worst things you ever posted Andries, really man.
It's really not. You guys are seeing what you want to see. It's easy to talk about great players of the past and pretend they're so much better than what we have now, but all evidence points to the contrary.

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Not the point you are making, but licht is criminally underrated at times.
As proven by a lot of very recent posts ;). Pretty sad how little recognition this guy gets.
 

Zacheryah

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Not the point you are making, but licht is criminally underrated at times.
Licht is underrated, but Zambrotta was beyond world class.

He was the defining example of the "marauding fullback". Complete package. Positionning, stamina, 1v1, crossing, technique, winning it back,..

Lichtsteiner struggled versus Robben and Neymar. Zambrotta went against much better players, and never got overplayed.
 

Dominic

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It's really not. You guys are seeing what you want to see. It's easy to talk about great players of the past and pretend they're so much better than what we have now, but all evidence points to the contrary.

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As proven by a lot of very recent posts ;). Pretty sad how little recognition this guy gets.
Evidently.

How would your team look if you had this seasons team and that of 2006?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Holy shit.

You knowt hats not remotely true, jesus christ
Yeah. I bet Pogba would never play in the team we had in 2006. No one from our current team would. Not even Buffon. Right? Oh wait.. Please. The Dybala of this season vastly outperforms Zlatan of 2005-06.

We had a great team, but have a look at the squad list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005–06_Juventus_F.C._season

We also had Giannichedda, Blasi, Emerson, Balzaretti.. Who all featured regularly.
 

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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Licht is underrated, but Zambrotta was beyond world class.

He was the defining example of the "marauding fullback". Complete package. Positionning, stamina, 1v1, crossing, technique, winning it back,..

Lichtsteiner struggled versus Robben and Neymar. Zambrotta went against much better players, and never got overplayed.
I loved zambrotta too. But im very nostalgic to the players of his generation, exactly as Andries suggests.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Licht is underrated, but Zambrotta was beyond world class.

He was the defining example of the "marauding fullback". Complete package. Positionning, stamina, 1v1, crossing, technique, winning it back,..

Lichtsteiner struggled versus Robben and Neymar. Zambrotta went against much better players, and never got overplayed.
Licht rarely gets beaten by his man. He is as solid as they come defensively. He might not have the pace Zamb had but his positioning makes up for it. It's his crossing and final service to the strikers that sets him apart from Zamb IMO. Licht runs himself ragged on the right but all the effort goes unrewarded because of his crossing.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Evidently.

How would your team look if you had this seasons team and that of 2006?

Buffon
Zambrotta-Cannavaro-Barzagli-Evra
Camoranesi-Pogba-Marchisio-Nedved
Dybala-Mandzukic

I chose a 4-4-2 because of the convenience as I'm doing this quickly. I also went with Dybala-Mandzukic because they're an excellent pair IMO and of all the strikers in those two seasons they had the longest in form periods. Pogba-Marchisio are head and shoulders above whatever central midfield we had in 2006. Defensively I rate us about as good now as back then, but I went with Canna and Zambrotta because they were seemingly indestructibe in 2005-06 and the following World Cup.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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Licht is underrated, but Zambrotta was beyond world class.

He was the defining example of the "marauding fullback". Complete package. Positionning, stamina, 1v1, crossing, technique, winning it back,..

Lichtsteiner struggled versus Robben and Neymar. Zambrotta went against much better players, and never got overplayed.
If anything Zambrotta was one of the most underrated FBs of his generation. He would consistently pawn the likes of R. Carlos or Cafu. It's beyond insane to compare him with Licht, with all due respect to the latter. The guy was the most complete FB, eventhough he started his career as wing forward, then gradually moved to the back. Iirc he was injured for half a season in 2002/03 and Camo took his spot. The only way to integrate both was to adapt him to a new position. He was also one of Italy's best players in 2006 WC.
 

Dominic

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Buffon
Zambrotta-Cannavaro-Barzagli-Evra
Camoranesi-Pogba-Marchisio-Nedved
Dybala-Mandzukic

I chose a 4-4-2 because of the convenience as I'm doing this quickly. I also went with Dybala-Mandzukic because they're an excellent pair IMO and of all the strikers in those two seasons they had the longest in form periods. Pogba-Marchisio are head and shoulders above whatever central midfield we had in 2006. Defensively I rate us about as good now as back then, but I went with Canna and Zambrotta because they were seemingly indestructibe in 2005-06 and the following World Cup.
Great team. I doubt many wouldve gone for mandzukic though.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Great team. I doubt many wouldve gone for mandzukic though.
No one probably. And in all fairness both teams have better strikers. Morata, Zlatan, Del Piero and Trezeguet are obviously a lot more talented. But you can't in good faith say that either Del Piero or Zlatan had a very good season in 2005-06 (mostly because of their rivalry). I left out Trezeguet (who did score over 20 goals iirc) because he would be a bad fit with Dybala and Morata because he spent a lot of time on the bench.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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3-4-1-2

---------------Buffon
------Thuram Bonucci Cannavaro
Zambrotta Pogba Emerson Alex Sandro
---------------Nedved
-------------Dybala Ibra

Allegri's 4-3-1-2:

---------Buffon
Zambrotta Thuram Cannavaro AS
----Vieira Emerson Pogba
---------Nedved
-------Dybala Ibra

4-3-3
---------Buffon
Zambro Thuram Canna AS
Vieira Emerson Pogba
Dybala----------Del Piero
-------Trezeguet
 

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