Giuseppe Marotta (70 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

Marotta makes no mistakes.

 

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[juventino320]

Everyone do mistakes, he is doing great in general since he come but he do mistaks he is no god.

Till now i have no problems with the players he get this year except ( mando, zaza and hernanes )

If he kept coman and llorinti plus getting berrardi we could save alot of money and we could play 433 easly with cuardado.

 

[Nenz]

He definitely made errors but those errors don't explain this poor start to the season when you look at the players that are on the field. The squad could be better if he had a perfect mercato and got Draxler and didn't sell Vidal or Coman but those mistakes aren't the difference between 12th and 1st place. They're not even the difference between 1st and 6th. Not by a long shot. A better manager could surely do better with the experience and talent at Allegri's disposal.

If you think Marotta is to blame for this terrible start to the season, it follows that the players available either that lack the quality to be among the top tier of the league or that they're such an impossibly incompatible group of players that they could never be managed into a working system together - so much so that they drop 15 points in 10 games. By this same twisted logic, Marotta should take full credit for the 11/12 scudetto, not Conte for getting the most out of what was a squad more randomly put together and of much less quality than this current one. Not to mention the two abominable seasons they'd had previous. What did Conte do? He adapted, found the right formation and instilled a winning mentality into a team that on paper never should have won the title.

A good manager couldn't be so rigid in his style that if everything doesn't fall perfectly into place for him, this is the result. Good managers can adapt and get the best out of their list. Look at the squad and tell me they're worse than any other clubs in the league. If Allegri can't be within reach of 4th or 3rd place by christmas it's empirically clear that he got lucky last season, inheriting a side that didn't really need much managing. Not so different to how he inherited Zlatan's Milan. As soon as he lost his match winners everything fell apart for him. Though, in this this case, Allegri has been much much more fortunate to still have quality all over the pitch. Yet because he actually has some real managing to do now, he can't.

Like I said, he could have had a better mercato. Probably by a long way, but if you think the squad he provided Allegri shouldn't be contending for the title, ya got rocks in ya head.

 

[dolph]

pros: Opportunity signing: Pirlo, Barzagli, Vidal, Pogba, Lichtsteiner, Lemina, Tevez, Llorente, Coman, Rugani, Berardi (even though I don't rate him highly), Pereyra, Morata, Evra, Khedira, Conte. Building a 4 time scudetto winner on a budget. fucking fantastic job
cons: Completely disjointed mercatoes from what the manager wants. Never being able to get a high profile signing. Those fucking farces we are involved in every summer ( Sanchez, Suarez, Aguero, Dzeko, Draxler, Van Persie etc ). Overpaying for mediocre Italiens/ Seria A proven players(Zaza, Matri, Peluso, Hernanes etc.)
My feelings for this man is so mixed. I cant figure out if I love him or I fucking hate his guts.

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pros: Opportunity signing: Pirlo, Barzagli, Vidal, Pogba, Lichtsteiner, Lemina, Tevez, Llorente, Coman, Rugani, Berardi (even though I don't rate him highly), Pereyra, Morata, Evra, Khedira, Conte. Building a 4 time scudetto winner on a budget. fucking fantastic job
cons: Completely disjointed mercatoes from what the manager wants. Never being able to get a high profile signing. Those fucking farces we are involved in every summer ( Sanchez, Suarez, Aguero, Dzeko, Draxler, Van Persie etc ). Overpaying for mediocre Italiens/ Seria A proven players(Zaza, Matri, Peluso, Hernanes etc.)
My feelings for this man is so mixed. I cant figure out if I love him or I fucking hate his guts.

 

[Hydde]

A good manager couldn't be so rigid in his style that if everything doesn't fall perfectly into place for him, this is the result. Good managers can adapt and get the best out of their list.

And this is the reason why he is not the proper coach for this team, and not a coach of the highest caliber. Thats the truth.

Marotta has all the blame for not giving him what he wanted... but also allegri cannot be crying about not being in his comfort zone.

Who is always in their comfort zone at work? almost no one.

He clearly lacks what it takes to take this team forward so maybe his time has come. Not totally allegri´s fault..but the situation is as it is and nothing can be done.

Marotta should also answer about what he did on the mercato. Its unnaceptable that fater our most succesfull season..we are in this situation.

 

[JCK]

By what logic should this squad provided warrant a 12th place? If you're blaming Marotta, you're blaming the perceived lack of quality of the players he bought but they're not players worthy of a mid-table side at all.

As I said, Marotta made not a single mistake.

 

[Martin]

As I said, Marotta made not a single mistake.

mistakes are not in his DNA

it must have been an assistant

 

[Hydde]

So much for being so great it seems

 

[.zero]

I don't see what the big deal is

Marotta did his job and has constructed a viable roster which allows us to sustain our success

It's not his fault nor is it the coach's fault that the players are not playing to their expected capabilities

 

[Martin]

I don't see what the big deal is

Marotta did his job and has constructed a viable roster which allows us to sustain our success

It's not his fault nor is it the coach's fault that the players are not playing to their expected capabilities

you can't blame the players

Dybala is trying, but when he looks at Mandzukic it makes him want to retire. Mandzukic on the other hand is doing his best, but then sees Cuadrado and he holds his head in his hands.

it's really nobody's fault

 

[.zero]

you can't blame the players

Dybala is trying, but when he looks at Mandzukic it makes him want to retire. Mandzukic on the other hand is doing his best, but then sees Cuadrado and he holds his head in his hands.

it's really nobody's fault

0 x 0 =

 

[DUKAC]

Your forgetting the many disjointed mercato decisions along the way. From letting Coman go, to then getting Cuadrado. The fiasco with Vidal, the Draxler back and forth midway through July. The Alex Sandro U-turn after nearly signing that other guy from Athletico. Hernanes on the last day of the mercato. The position that ironically had to be filled before any other position, being AM supposedly/notionally came in the form of Hernanes on the 31st of August, by which time pre-season was done and dusted and Allegri had to find multiple tactical and technical solutions to make his preferred formation work. On paper, we can look at the likes of Mandzukic, Rugani, Dybala, Cuadrado, Sandro etc. and think thats great, but our starting team was weaker, and only our depth was bettered. Sure, the injuries to other starting key players didn't help, but spending 18m on Zaza when there were clearly other pressing needs shows that the management and the coach were not in tandem.

Big clubs don't function like this in the mercato. We worked without any plan whatsoever after selling Vidal, by which time things were precariously placed because Tevez and had anyway already informed all and sundry that he wanted to move on. Two major pillars of the team gone, and we had absolutely nothing to show for it at the end of that. I don't care about having a flashy mercato, but i do care about having an effective one. And all things considered, we've only achieved soft objectives on this mercato which has been one of the most directionless in all my time of having watched and supported this team and club. Absolutely pathetic.

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Being 12th place right now doesn't necessarily mean we'll finish there. We may finish 6th or 7th, but the fact of the matter is, that we didn't prioritise the true needs of the team this summer. We prioritised opportunity. A formula thats not sustainable for success at the highest level.

This is not to defect blame from Allegri's decision making, but to say Marrotta has little fault in all of this, is borderline blind.

Absolutely.If true that Tevez announced at February that he want's to go, what the fuck was Marptta doing 6 months ?He could at least try to find an adequate replacement .But no.We all hail his Pirlo/Pogba/Tevez/Llorente deals.But he failed very much this mercato.And that happens when we had biggest sum of money since Calciopoli
He let Vidal go because he asks for that?For what price ?And who he buys ?Lemina is on loan and Hernanes is not playing what Vidal does and both players are not worth,as a players.,half of Vidal.Apart from the fact that he sign Hernanes the last day.
He never asks Alegri about some player or cares what type of player Alegri wants.He doesn't give a shit for that.
You can't find all the time Tevez/Vidal kind of players for a peanut money.
And that Goetze/Draxler soap opera was just deluding the public that he was after them.Not a real effort. He is very,very responsible for this situation too.

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He definitely made errors but those errors don't explain this poor start to the season when you look at the players that are on the field. The squad could be better if he had a perfect mercato and got Draxler and didn't sell Vidal or Coman but those mistakes aren't the difference between 12th and 1st place. They're not even the difference between 1st and 6th. Not by a long shot. A better manager could surely do better with the experience and talent at Allegri's disposal.

If you think Marotta is to blame for this terrible start to the season, it follows that the players available either that lack the quality to be among the top tier of the league or that they're such an impossibly incompatible group of players that they could never be managed into a working system together - so much so that they drop 15 points in 10 games. By this same twisted logic, Marotta should take full credit for the 11/12 scudetto, not Conte for getting the most out of what was a squad more randomly put together and of much less quality than this current one. Not to mention the two abominable seasons they'd had previous. What did Conte do? He adapted, found the right formation and instilled a winning mentality into a team that on paper never should have won the title.

A good manager couldn't be so rigid in his style that if everything doesn't fall perfectly into place for him, this is the result. Good managers can adapt and get the best out of their list. Look at the squad and tell me they're worse than any other clubs in the league. If Allegri can't be within reach of 4th or 3rd place by christmas it's empirically clear that he got lucky last season, inheriting a side that didn't really need much managing. Not so different to how he inherited Zlatan's Milan. As soon as he lost his match winners everything fell apart for him. Though, in this this case, Allegri has been much much more fortunate to still have quality all over the pitch. Yet because he actually has some real managing to do now, he can't.

Like I said, he could have had a better mercato. Probably by a long way, but if you think the squad he provided Allegri shouldn't be contending for the title, ya got rocks in ya head.

Neither Conte nor Marotta should be fully hailed for 11/12 title.It was given on a plate from our current coach,then a Milan coach.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

The Society is awfully quiet in here

 

[DUKAC]

I don't see what the big deal is

Marotta did his job and has constructed a viable roster which allows us to sustain our success

It's not his fault nor is it the coach's fault that the players are not playing to their expected capabilities

True ,especially if you have in mind Hernanes and Zaza capabilities.

 

[.zero]

The Society is awfully quiet in here

They are assembling in the shadows and preparing a massive blitzkrieg campaign which is actually the right thing to do

 

[swag]

Well I can't blame Marotta as much for Pogba sucking wind, our steady defense leaking cheap goals early, etc.

 

[Martin]

Well I can't blame Marotta as much for Pogba sucking wind, our steady defense leaking cheap goals early, etc.

you can't? or you won't?

 

[.zero]

you can't? or you won't?

he shouldn't

 

[Martin]

he shouldn't

impossible

you cannot get ought from is

 

[Hydde]

you can't blame the players

Dybala is trying, but when he looks at Mandzukic it makes him want to retire. Mandzukic on the other hand is doing his best, but then sees Cuadrado and he holds his head in his hands.

it's really nobody's fault

Lets blame luck

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The Society is awfully quiet in here

They better stay quiet then.

Im not even a marotta hater.. i like the dude and ehe is fun as hell to look at... but somethings that happened in the mercato were brutal.