zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Why would you make such a huge investment on a 4th choice striker without having a deal in place for your current 4th choice striker who is on 4.5M per year wages first?
we agreed to buy Zaza last summer even, when Sassuolo gave us 7.5M for him. it was agreed that we will buy him. however, we had offers for Llorente which the club would have accepted (remember early in the mercato, Monaco and some EPL clubs), but he didnt want to go there. he wants Spain where Sevilla would take him on loan and i dont remember if anyone else was interested. thats it
 

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Klin

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Because you are blind for berardi :agree:
That makes no sense.

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we agreed to buy Zaza last summer even, when Sassuolo gave us 7.5M for him. it was agreed that we will buy him. however, we had offers for Llorente which the club would have accepted (remember early in the mercato, Monaco and some EPL clubs), but he didnt want to go there. he wants Spain where Sevilla would take him on loan and i dont remember if anyone else was interested. thats it
So we didn't have a deal before committing to buy Zaza?
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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This Zaza situation is unfuckingbelievable.
I have to wonder if we agreed to some mandatory buyback last summer, with the amount Sassuolo paid us for Zaza's half. I just don't get this move otherwise. If it was an optional buyback clause, why the hell would we redeem him at that amount, especially before having offloaded Llorente. It makes me think there was some mandatory buyback inserted in the initial deal, which in itself would be pretty ridiculous, but not the sheer idiocy of buying Zaza of our own volition this summer, without first offloading Llorente.
 

Cheesio

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we agreed to buy Zaza last summer even, when Sassuolo gave us 7.5M for him. it was agreed that we will buy him. however, we had offers for Llorente which the club would have accepted (remember early in the mercato, Monaco and some EPL clubs), but he didnt want to go there. he wants Spain where Sevilla would take him on loan and i dont remember if anyone else was interested. thats it

Lol, such bullshit.

Zaza is shit, Allegri isn't convinced that's why he prefers to play Llorente instead of him. IF what you re saying is true, we coul've easily loaned Llorente to Sevilla instead of shoping Zaza around ?
 

Klin

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Lol, such bullshit.

Zaza is shit, Allegri isn't convinced that's why he prefers to play Llorente instead of him. IF what you re saying is true, we coul've easily loaned Llorente to Sevilla instead of shoping Zaza around ?
Llorente is at fault because he didn't want to move to Sevilla for half the wages he's getting here, just because we assumed he would leave after we committed to buy Zaza.
 

zizinho

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So you can't blame Llorente for this fiasco. It's all on Beppe.
you are saying its Beppes fault, you should explain how. we have a player incoming that was agreed to come here last summer. that player would have arrived no matter what, unless he himself rejected a move like Berardi. you have another player that rejected good offers for the club because he prefers to either stay or return to stay. so you actually receive offers for him but cant sell because he refuses. whos fault is that exactly?
 

zizinho

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Lol, such bull$#@!.

Zaza is $#@!, Allegri isn't convinced that's why he prefers to play Llorente instead of him. IF what you re saying is true, we coul've easily loaned Llorente to Sevilla instead of shoping Zaza around ?
so far, Zaza is still here so its all speculation. we could, but what if Sevillas offer isnt good enough for the club? like us paying half his wages? ofcourse we would reject such an offer
 

Cheesio

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you are saying its Beppes fault, you should explain how. we have a player incoming that was agreed to come here last summer. that player would have arrived no matter what, unless he himself rejected a move like Berardi. you have another player that rejected good offers for the club because he prefers to either stay or return to stay. so you actually receive offers for him but cant sell because he refuses. whos fault is that exactly?
You are just assuming, no record of that.

Why play Llorente instead of Zaza then .? why not loan Llorente if you are ready to Loan Zaza .?? Why sign Mandzukic, Zaza when you already have Morata and Llorente ??
 

duranfj

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you are saying its Beppes fault, you should explain how. we have a player incoming that was agreed to come here last summer. that player would have arrived no matter what, unless he himself rejected a move like Berardi. you have another player that rejected good offers for the club because he prefers to either stay or return to stay. so you actually receive offers for him but cant sell because he refuses. whos fault is that exactly?
:beppe:
 

Post Ironic

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You are just assuming, no record of that.

Why play Llorente instead of Zaza then .? why not loan Llorente if you are ready to Loan Zaza .?? Why sign Mandzukic, Zaza when you already have Morata and Llorente ??
Mandzukic was a good deal at that price. He's a top forward, and far superior to Llorente.

The Zaza thing is mind-boggling. Even if it was a mandatory buyback it's still pretty ridiculous that we agreed to that. But if we actually took up the option to buy him this summer for 18 mil, without having a guaranteed buyer for Llorente... That's so unbelievably stupid. :sergio:
 

zizinho

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You are just assuming, no record of that.

Why play Llorente instead of Zaza then .? why not loan Llorente if you are ready to Loan Zaza .?? Why sign Mandzukic, Zaza when you already have Morata and Llorente ??
im not assuming, its obvious. why would Sassuolo pay 7.5M for Zaza? he was co owned and they could still keep him for a year with us buying his half this summer. we sold him for over his value for the books, but committed to buy him this summer due to that.

why play Llorente you say? that you should ask the coach about his tactical decisions. yesterday we chased a result and were launching lots of long balls into the box. probably thats why Llorente was subbed in.

why sign Mandzukic? why are you asking that now when it was answered to you atleast 10 times during the summer by various posters. you start sounding like a broken record seriously.
 

Cheesio

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Mandzukic was a good deal at that price. He's a top forward, and far superior to Llorente.

The Zaza thing is mind-boggling. Even if it was a mandatory buyback it's still pretty ridiculous that we agreed to that. But if we actually took up the option to buy him this summer for 18 mil, without having a guaranteed buyer for Llorente... That's so unbelievably stupid. :sergio:
Mandzukic is a good forward i agree, but he's still should be a backup for Morata who is the superior player right now. Getting both him and Zaza with Llorente still around, you basically have 4 players for one spot.
 

zizinho

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Llorente is at fault because he didn't want to move to Sevilla for half the wages he's getting here, just because we assumed he would leave after we committed to buy Zaza.
are you stupid? seriously? how about you answer to my post and have a discussion instead of spreading bullshit all the time. its easy hiding behind another poster and adding cynical lines to his replies. you should start by answering to my post 1st, instead of completely ignoring it and spreading lies. you truly are pathetic
 

Cheesio

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im not assuming, its obvious. why would Sassuolo pay 7.5M for Zaza? he was co owned and they could still keep him for a year with us buying his half this summer. we sold him for over his value for the books, but committed to buy him this summer due to that.

why play Llorente you say? that you should ask the coach about his tactical decisions. yesterday we chased a result and were launching lots of long balls into the box. probably thats why Llorente was subbed in.

why sign Mandzukic? why are you asking that now when it was answered to you atleast 10 times during the summer by various posters. you start sounding like a broken record seriously.
Lol you are the delusional one, coming up with excuses to suit your agenda, it was agreed last year, part of the berardi deal....Llorente refused offers....

Just assumptions without any proof.
 

Post Ironic

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Mandzukic is a good forward i agree, but he's still should be a backup for Morata who is the superior player right now. Getting both him and Zaza with Llorente still around, you basically have 4 players for one spot.
:agree:

I like the idea of Morata, Mandzukic, Dybala, Coman, and a jack of all trades 5th striker. Morata-Mandzukic could probably work quite well in a front 2 if we had actually purchased a creative treq. they are very different players, with Morata enjoying more freedom to drift around, out wide, pick up the ball deep, run at defenders, etc. and Mandzukic being more the hardworking penalty box forward... But we haven't signed a creative treq, and part of that has to be wasting 18 mil on Zaza and not being able to offload Llorente's 4.5 mil wage. So that's a massive failure on the part of our management as things currently stand.

If we sign a top CAM, and manage to offload Llorente, this mercato will have been very good. If we don't, I don't even know how to rate it. It's pretty damn mediocre.
 

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