What concern me a little is our backline. Our top guys are ageing... and then we have the bonuccis and ogbonnas. On top of it all, Italy as a whole is producing more bonuccis everyday. Who will we buy in this case?.
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This romantic notion that we'll keep churning out amazing players and live happily ever after is great. And our transfer strategy is fine at this moment in time. But let's take you all on a virtual tour of our team, and maybe this beautiful Utopian dream can make way for a bit of realism.
Left back: As far as actual left backs go, we have 1. His name is Partice Evra. Where is his potential replacement in a year or twos time? Where is this young future legend, this bright young prospect lad who's ready to step in? I don't see him, and Asamoah is not the answer. Not for a back 4, not unless you want to turn a very good midfielder into a mediocre full back.
CB: Our best defender is 33 and increasingly injury prone, our 2nd best defender is not far behind in both regards. Do we have one of these ready made replacements waiting for his chance? Do we? No.
We're pinning all of our hopes on Rugani, who is absolutely an unknown quantity at this point in time. He may be ready in 4-5 years time IF he turns out like we all want him to.
Pirlo. The sole creative spark on our team. Needless to say we have absolutely no solution when he's finished. Our already worryingly small source of creativity will be gone and what do we do? Rely on Marchisio to unlock opposition defences on a consistent bases? Yeah... no.
So we can all live in the 90's again, or we can wake up and understand that unless we invest properly (No, NOBODY is suggesting we pull a City/Madrid/united) but we must invest properly to just MAINTAIN our current level in the next few years when our defence, and the heart of our midfield is finished. These 10M net spending windows are fine right now. But you can bet everything you own on the fact we are not going to strike it lucky several times in one Summer replacing the core of our team. If we can not afford top class youngsters at the very least, then I hope you all make peace with Bonucci and Ogbonna starting all of our games 2 years from now. And I do not want to hear a single complaint from ANYBODY who is suggesting we have no real need for a 'top' player when some of our own TOP players are 2-3 years away from being finished at this level.
Back in the day we or any other sensible club for that matter could find some amazing deals. Talented youngsters would come for a reasonable fee, and all was well. Nowadays unless you strike it lucky with contract issues/general unhappiness any useless young scrub who's had a half decent season playing in an obscure league will end up costing an arm & a leg. Wake up people, enough of this 'tradition' talk when we all know damn well that if you don't get with the times you fall behind.
Left back: As far as actual left backs go, we have 1. His name is Partice Evra. Where is his potential replacement in a year or twos time? Where is this young future legend, this bright young prospect lad who's ready to step in? I don't see him, and Asamoah is not the answer. Not for a back 4, not unless you want to turn a very good midfielder into a mediocre full back.
CB: Our best defender is 33 and increasingly injury prone, our 2nd best defender is not far behind in both regards. Do we have one of these ready made replacements waiting for his chance? Do we? No.
We're pinning all of our hopes on Rugani, who is absolutely an unknown quantity at this point in time. He may be ready in 4-5 years time IF he turns out like we all want him to.
Pirlo. The sole creative spark on our team. Needless to say we have absolutely no solution when he's finished. Our already worryingly small source of creativity will be gone and what do we do? Rely on Marchisio to unlock opposition defences on a consistent bases? Yeah... no.
So we can all live in the 90's again, or we can wake up and understand that unless we invest properly (No, NOBODY is suggesting we pull a City/Madrid/united) but we must invest properly to just MAINTAIN our current level in the next few years when our defence, and the heart of our midfield is finished. These 10M net spending windows are fine right now. But you can bet everything you own on the fact we are not going to strike it lucky several times in one Summer replacing the core of our team. If we can not afford top class youngsters at the very least, then I hope you all make peace with Bonucci and Ogbonna starting all of our games 2 years from now. And I do not want to hear a single complaint from ANYBODY who is suggesting we have no real need for a 'top' player when some of our own TOP players are 2-3 years away from being finished at this level.
Back in the day we or any other sensible club for that matter could find some amazing deals. Talented youngsters would come for a reasonable fee, and all was well. Nowadays unless you strike it lucky with contract issues/general unhappiness any useless young scrub who's had a half decent season playing in an obscure league will end up costing an arm & a leg. Wake up people, enough of this 'tradition' talk when we all know damn well that if you don't get with the times you fall behind.
Asamoah is a valid choice to be reschooled to leftback, as we wont find a better one soon anyway
Pirlo is not really an issue. With Coman and potentially Rabiot and Sturaro we got that area covered.
Centreback is an issue we need to focus on next summer.
Considering development of Berardi and Coman/Pereyra, we dont need to waste money on the top winger
Pirlo is not really an issue. With Coman and potentially Rabiot and Sturaro we got that area covered.
Centreback is an issue we need to focus on next summer.
Considering development of Berardi and Coman/Pereyra, we dont need to waste money on the top winger
From Vidal( worlds best box to box) pirlo ( worlds best regista) and pogba/marchisio to rabiot( big question mark) staruro and the likes. That's a huge downgrade.
Asamoah maybe a good lb but what about licht?
We agree on the lack of cbs but there is also Buffon to think about
We are in for a shitstorm
Asamoah maybe a good lb but what about licht?
We agree on the lack of cbs but there is also Buffon to think about
We are in for a shitstorm
We cant possibly get a midfielder who has pirlo's impact. It was allways going to be a downgrade
And there is no "from vidal" as he is staying and finishing his (european) career here.
Licht can last a few more years, and Romulo can play rb.
Buffon is an issue, but when will he retire ? Recent game showed he still got it
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A certain mod (and to a lesser extend some french friends) convinced me of Sturaro, and Coman is a very promising talent of who i expect great things. And i was the first to advocate this.
And there is no "from vidal" as he is staying and finishing his (european) career here.
Licht can last a few more years, and Romulo can play rb.
Buffon is an issue, but when will he retire ? Recent game showed he still got it
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Why does Zach seems to think so highly of Sturaro all of a sudden? 
And since when Coleman, or whatever his name is, is a top player?
And since when Coleman, or whatever his name is, is a top player?
I have to agree on this. By nature, when you are one of the top dogs in the business you are in no need of having to wait for a superstar to raise from your youth ranks...you just buy them from the other teams because you have the money.
Thats what juve did in the past. Pretty much what madrid is doing now on a galactic level style.
Thats what juve did in the past. Pretty much what madrid is doing now on a galactic level style.
Juve have always bought players, but never behaved like a Real Madrid or an AC Milan under Berlusconi. With the exception of Nedved/Buffon of course, but that was financed by the megasale of Zinedine Zidane, a french player who we in fact got very cheaply (around 4 million euros) due to great scouting and transfer negotiations by the club.
We've signed many great players in the past, like Vialli, Baggio etc., but I'm sure the point K.O. wanted to make was that the typical Juve model has been to supply such good purchases with developed talents and wise, low-cost moves for other good players. Take a look at the 1996 Juve CL winning squad photos, and you will see a squad that was created with this model.
No one is claiming that we never buy players, though. Just that we've never been a club to dish out insane sums just like that.
We've signed many great players in the past, like Vialli, Baggio etc., but I'm sure the point K.O. wanted to make was that the typical Juve model has been to supply such good purchases with developed talents and wise, low-cost moves for other good players. Take a look at the 1996 Juve CL winning squad photos, and you will see a squad that was created with this model.
No one is claiming that we never buy players, though. Just that we've never been a club to dish out insane sums just like that.
Yeah, but I never wrote that. Juve's club policy is to mix purchasing some high end players (although not at all costs), low-cost good players and developing own players.
It's true that Juve always aim to have a couple of world class players in the squad at all times, but if you can't see the difference between us and Real Madrid / Berlusconi-Milan / current United, then you are blind.
It's true that Juve always aim to have a couple of world class players in the squad at all times, but if you can't see the difference between us and Real Madrid / Berlusconi-Milan / current United, then you are blind.
Oh, we try, but when the sums become insane, we usually pull out. Of course we're interested in those kind of players, but we don't sign them at all costs, and never did. Even when we paid alot in the past (Charles, Thuram, Nedved, Buffon etc.), there were always good reasons behind why we decided to pounce.
Never claimed that Juve don't buy players, but we don't throw money around like other clubs and we never had a galacticos-like policy such as you claim.
Never claimed that Juve don't buy players, but we don't throw money around like other clubs and we never had a galacticos-like policy such as you claim.