Giuseppe Marotta (176 Viewers)
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That should shut him up for a while.Heavily investing? Roma invest and reinvest the money Sabatini has made them with the players he finds and they end up sold for 30m+.
At the end of the day, all of this doesn't really matter when comparing 2 individuals. Marotta has been dealt the better cards and Sabatini still doing amazing work. I prefer Sabatini and believe he'd done an even more spectacular job if he had a more prestigious club like Juventus to pitch.
At the end of the day, all of this doesn't really matter when comparing 2 individuals. Marotta has been dealt the better cards and Sabatini still doing amazing work. I prefer Sabatini and believe he'd done an even more spectacular job if he had a more prestigious club like Juventus to pitch.
What he sells at the end of the day isn't even sufficient for Roma to break even. They are struggling currently with FFP and there is strong possibility they'll have to sell Benatia due to this. Without 30-40m influx of cash every year from its owners, Roma wouldn't be in position to go on the market. Marotta can always sell the likes of Pogba, Vidal, or Asamoah for significant fees; Pogba alone could fetch us almost all what Roma had earned so far with Sabatini's sales, but we are not going to do this, obviously.
Did I say that? That is one of the reasons why I believe Sabatini would do better over here, he wouldn't have to sell all of his players here, a luxury Marotta has. We'd have more quality players sooner. Guys like Marquinhos, Lamela, Pjanic, Benatia, Strootman etc etc would stay and he'd not have to do it all over again to replacing those guys. Beppe has had multiple mercato's to raise the level of this team into a top European club but instead spends the money he has on multiple players instead of fewer who'd make a difference and a bunch of wtf signings.
Sabatini joined Roma in 2011. From then till now he have bought players for a combined €259M, and sold players for €172M = €87M in total.
Marotta have in the same period bought players for €245M, and sold players for €115M = €130M in total.
Thats a difference of €43M in 4 (almost) summer mercatos. That basically means Marotta has spend €10M more than Sabatini every year, and by doing that Juventus have won 3 Scudetti and 2 Italian Super Cups, while Roma have won nothing.
I just dont see Sabatini's superiority here.
Marotta have in the same period bought players for €245M, and sold players for €115M = €130M in total.
Thats a difference of €43M in 4 (almost) summer mercatos. That basically means Marotta has spend €10M more than Sabatini every year, and by doing that Juventus have won 3 Scudetti and 2 Italian Super Cups, while Roma have won nothing.
I just dont see Sabatini's superiority here.
You're making it sound as if Sabatini has been selling Roma's key players every summer for the last 10 years and then replacing them adequately, all that with the budget he has made exclusively from sales, while the reality is somewhat different. That occured last summer and he indeed made some smart moves, no one can deny this. Here's little breakdown of Roma's operations since 2011:
2011 - purchases 90m, sales 26m
2012 - purchases 44m, sales 22m
2013 - purchases 73m, sales 118m
2014 - purchases 42m, sales 6m
As you can see from the above only last summer did Sabatini make excessive profit, and that was by selling Lamela, Osvaldo, Marquinhos and few others. In the previous few years Roma was disappointing throughout the season, mostly because the investmens were sub par, although significant overall amounts were spent. There's also an issue of appointing coaches of rather questionable quality like Enrique or Zeman. What would be the outcome if Marotta decided to sell Pogba and Vidal? We could net between 100-130m, I'd asume. New market would open up for us.
The bottom line is that despite of all the efforts and extraordinary backing provided by their owners (we're talking about 150-180m of equity in this period) Roma has won 0 titles and managed to meet minimum objectives after 3 years of his tenure; qualifying for the CL. That afterall is what really matters here.
http://www.transfermarkt.com/as-roma/transfers/verein/12?saison_id=2011&pos=&detailpos=
http://www.transfermarkt.com/as-roma/transfers/verein/12?saison_id=2012&pos=&detailpos=
http://www.transfermarkt.com/as-roma/transfers/verein/12?saison_id=2013&pos=&detailpos=
http://www.transfermarkt.com/as-rom/transfers/verein/12/saison_id/2014
2011 - purchases 90m, sales 26m
2012 - purchases 44m, sales 22m
2013 - purchases 73m, sales 118m
2014 - purchases 42m, sales 6m
As you can see from the above only last summer did Sabatini make excessive profit, and that was by selling Lamela, Osvaldo, Marquinhos and few others. In the previous few years Roma was disappointing throughout the season, mostly because the investmens were sub par, although significant overall amounts were spent. There's also an issue of appointing coaches of rather questionable quality like Enrique or Zeman. What would be the outcome if Marotta decided to sell Pogba and Vidal? We could net between 100-130m, I'd asume. New market would open up for us.
The bottom line is that despite of all the efforts and extraordinary backing provided by their owners (we're talking about 150-180m of equity in this period) Roma has won 0 titles and managed to meet minimum objectives after 3 years of his tenure; qualifying for the CL. That afterall is what really matters here.
http://www.transfermarkt.com/as-roma/transfers/verein/12?saison_id=2011&pos=&detailpos=
http://www.transfermarkt.com/as-roma/transfers/verein/12?saison_id=2012&pos=&detailpos=
http://www.transfermarkt.com/as-roma/transfers/verein/12?saison_id=2013&pos=&detailpos=
http://www.transfermarkt.com/as-rom/transfers/verein/12/saison_id/2014
It's obvious Marotta has done a great job at this club. All you have to do is look at where we were before he took over and where we are now. Even his biggest critics wouldn't erase his years of work and let someone else do it, I guarantee it.
They're basically arguing that he's not perfect. And to that there is no debate so they will always feel like they're winning something I guess.
They're basically arguing that he's not perfect. And to that there is no debate so they will always feel like they're winning something I guess.
Few here and you might know to whom I'm referring to, actually believe that Marotta has done more harm to this club so far. As you've said he isn't perfect, far from that, he made some bad moves and he will undoubtedly make some more, but we really need to look at the quality of our team few years ago to realize how much we have improved since. Every position in the squad has been addressed in this period and improved accordingly.