ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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I can see that some of them are :D

You're also missing several details, and several are subjective to say the least.

I also think that is basically all of the 'crap' players from the last 3 years.
If you didn't read it includes taxes, 43% above 75k e.

Yeah I am missing details, like how he gave Tiago away for free or lost 10m on Diego despite him having a good season.

What about other overpaid and/or medicore signings like Pepe, Quagliarella, Toni, Giaccherini, Giovinco, Peluso, Bonucci, Vucinic etc

The only truly good signings are:
Pirlo (lucky)
Pogba
Vidal
Barzagli (lucky)
Lichtsteiner
Asamoah
maybe Caceres
Llorente

If he is good at one thing, it's throwing money down the toilet.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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We are in such horrible position with mediocre caliber players

we should sell everything and start anew


We should follow the fantastic napoli, ac milan and inter milan, who have humiliated us with their massive point tally in the league compared to ours.

What pathetic team we are. and we hardly scored a goal
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
41,656
We are in such horrible position with mediocre caliber players

we should sell everything and start anew


We should follow the fantastic napoli, ac milan and inter milan, who have humiliated us with their massive point tally in the league compared to ours.

What pathetic team we are. and we hardly scored a goal
Just pretend Marotta hasn't wasted over €100m.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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Any player on the bench contributes to wasting 100M. We should only field 11 players. It would be better if Marotta could do proper work and come up with 10 or even 9 truly great players so that we don't waste any extra money filling out our starting lineup.

If you pay money for a proper training staff then you don't even need bench players because the starters should play 90 minutes match after match. If only Marotta would listen to Conte about the training staff. After all, Conte hired Conte. He knows what he's doing.

Conte pleaded and begged not to sign his ex-players like Peluso and Padoin. That is for sure. But Marotta didn't want to waste money fixing his lazy eye so that he could see eye to eye with Conte. If only he had been that prudent with our transfers, perhaps we'd have two undefeated seasons instead of just one.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Any player on the bench contributes to wasting 100M. We should only field 11 players. It would be better if Marotta could do proper work and come up with 10 or even 9 truly great players so that we don't waste any extra money filling out our starting lineup.

If you pay money for a proper training staff then you don't even need bench players because the starters should play 90 minutes match after match. If only Marotta would listen to Conte about the training staff. After all, Conte hired Conte. He knows what he's doing.

Conte pleaded and begged not to sign his ex-players like Peluso and Padoin. That is for sure. But Marotta didn't want to waste money fixing his lazy eye so that he could see eye to eye with Conte. If only he had been that prudent with our transfers, perhaps we'd have two undefeated seasons instead of just one.
Again, Marrotta did NOT hire Conte. Agnelli did.

And if you think the undefeated season was down to us having the best players on paper, it would be unfair. Coz Conte transformed that team into a scudetto winning one.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
41,656
Any player on the bench contributes to wasting 100M. We should only field 11 players. It would be better if Marotta could do proper work and come up with 10 or even 9 truly great players so that we don't waste any extra money filling out our starting lineup.

If you pay money for a proper training staff then you don't even need bench players because the starters should play 90 minutes match after match. If only Marotta would listen to Conte about the training staff. After all, Conte hired Conte. He knows what he's doing.

Conte pleaded and begged not to sign his ex-players like Peluso and Padoin. That is for sure. But Marotta didn't want to waste money fixing his lazy eye so that he could see eye to eye with Conte. If only he had been that prudent with our transfers, perhaps we'd have two undefeated seasons instead of just one.
What great bench players

Krasic
Martinez
Motta
Rinaudo
Traore
Matri
Elia
Borriello
Bendtner
Anelka
Lanzafame
Iaquinta
Lucio
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Is Marotta the only Director General AND CEO of a club? I think he might be.

IF that is the case, his role is vastly different to other Sporting Directors in football, and to past Sporting Directors at Juventus as well.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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No Serge. That Juventus was far ahead of this one. Moggi signed players and ran the mercato. Different times and I don't want to compare the two. The point is what Lippi did wasn't out of the realms of possibility due to the squad at his disposal. What Conte achieved was immense despite our shortcomings, which Marrotta didn't plug, such as the failure in the Alves deal, and the failure in our attempts to sign a striker worthy of Juve. Just one striker mind you, after spending close to 200million in three seasons.
Ah yes. Because you're only a great team if you have strikers. I agree that we should ignore our world class defense and midfield. That seems like the smart thing to do.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Again, Marrotta did NOT hire Conte. Agnelli did.

And if you think the undefeated season was down to us having the best players on paper, it would be unfair. Coz Conte transformed that team into a scudetto winning one.
you mean, conte unleashed the potential in the players, that marotta saw when he purchased them.

God we have an awesome coaching staff and board
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Ah yes. Because you're only a great team if you have strikers. I agree that we should ignore our world class defense and midfield. That seems like the smart thing to do.
Don't know if you remember but Bonnucci was being traded for Alves till that deal fell through. Barzagli was here as Legro's replacement, hence why we needed a CB that season, but when we failed to sign one on deadline day, Conte used what he had. That's where the world class defense came from. The world class midfield story as we know it, is that Pirlo came here and transformed, but if you're telling me you could see that this is what he was going to do at the time that we signed him, then that's very impressive. I'm not even getting to the striker situation, but to think that after everything and all the names we were linked with and chased, we squabbled with Siena to sign Bendtner. Like he seriously thought a player being signed by a side fighting relegation would have any value here whatsoever?! Forget the money involved. Just the thought of it.

Again, please don't mistake this as my tirade against Marrotta staying, but we need to stop going on about how world class the team is. Conte's luck and management is why we were undefeated title winners in his first season here. My humble opinion.


you mean, conte unleashed the potential in the players, that marotta saw when he purchased them.

God we have an awesome coaching staff and board
No, you mean Marrotta saw in Barzagli and Pirlo what they actually went out and did on the pitch? Really, hats off to him. Coz nobody else saw it.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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We needed a commanding cb, Barzagli was that.

We wanted creativity in the mid, and believed in pirlo.
There was no we in Pirlo's case, he was bought by Marrotta before the new coach was appointed. And if Barzagli was the commanding CB we were after, why were we in a rush to close Alves? We even offered Pepe to Zenit, another player instrumental in Juve's success that season. A player bought by Marrotta himself for 10m the season prior. A move that Conte blocked.
 

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