baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Baggio will please stop fucking posting your opinion as actual fact? It's infuriating. "If we did this we could have signed X" "There is a clear communication gap" "We have enough money to sign X". Just stop it, you don't know your head from your elbow.
Was Trez not loaned out? Is Bendtner not a Juve striker? Were we not after RvP? Wasn't Elia sold after one season here? What the fuck are you talking about? I'm posting the way I see things. Not asking you to agree.
 

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Nzoric

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Was Trez not loaned out? Is Bendtner not a Juve striker? Were we not after RvP? Wasn't Elia sold after one season here? What the fuck are you talking about? I'm posting the way I see things. Not asking you to agree.
Trez was old and over the hill, I love him but he would not have helped our season one bit. We were after RvP but didn't have the money to sign him - what are you going to do about it? Elia flunked hard so he was sold. Stop presenting things as if Marotta just doesn't want to do what is best for the club.
 

baggio

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Trez was old and over the hill, I love him but he would not have helped our season one bit. We were after RvP but didn't have the money to sign him - what are you going to do about it? Elia flunked hard so he was sold. Stop presenting things as if Marotta just doesn't want to do what is best for the club.
Trezeguet can school any striker Marrotta has bought in his reign, including Quag. Why were we after RvP if we didn't have the money? Dd he owe us a favor or did he find out that Marrotta is his real father? Grow the fuck up. You don't go to a Ferrari showroom if you've got just enough to pay the down payment of a Vespa. Elia flunked? Don't know which matches you saw him play, but if he's a failure over the handful of games he played, then quite clearly you're showing a point of view thats going to become biased and worth ignoring. I'm not trying to argue that he should or should not be renewed. My point is clear. He has had his failures and they're his failures not the club's. It's got nothing to do with him wanting to hurt the club, it's got to do with his level of competency. This year he's going to have to be on the top of his game, no matter how great you think he already is.
 

Nzoric

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So, it would be better if he didn't try to find bargain deals for big players? If he's not 100% sure he shouldn't try and improve the squad? :lol:

Elia flunked, there is a reason he didn't get more playing time than he did.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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You are pathetic.
Again, you don't have to agree with me about this. Based on what Del Neri and Diego said at the time, it was pretty clear that DN was fine with Diego. If you go with Diego's version of events (not that you have to believe it), he was even more explicit about the fact that DN wanted him but Marrotta wasn't clear with him and sold him with only a few days to go.
 

baggio

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So, it would be better if he didn't try to find bargain deals for big players? If he's not 100% sure he shouldn't try and improve the squad? :lol:

Elia flunked, there is a reason he didn't get more playing time than he did.
I didn't understand what you meant. Sure, look for a bargain deal, but 9/10 if you're going in for a world level striker, you're going to have to pay big. RvP falls in that category.

Elia flunking would mean Isla flunked too?
 
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Trez was old and over the hill, I love him but he would not have helped our season one bit. We were after RvP but didn't have the money to sign him - what are you going to do about it? Elia flunked hard so he was sold. Stop presenting things as if Marotta just doesn't want to do what is best for the club.
And yet we were able to give him contract that he accepted to sign so it's up to board of directors who didn't gave enough money to Beppe to finalize the deal, same shit were with Bastos saga
 

baggio

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Diego was sold to fund some of the other players DN explicitly wanted.
I don't remember at any point in that season, Del Neri asking for Quag or Dinatale and Borriello, both of whom rejected us. In fact, I do remember him pairing Diego and Trez and being happy with it, even saying something to the effect of Diego not being a wide player but offering the team something extra in attack. So don't know what you're talking about.
 

Nzoric

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I didn't understand what you meant. Sure, look for a bargain deal, but 9/10 if you're going in for a world level striker, you're going to have to pay big. RvP falls in that category.

Elia flunking would mean Isla flunked too?
So he should just stop trying to get world class strikers, right.

Isla is coming off the worst injury you can get in the game of football, he'll have to prove himself next season. This season is a write off.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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It's not like his wishes are important,.
I wonder how it works at Juve though. It would perhaps be more optimal if the coach did have a say, as some people here claim Conte does and that's why Beppe is only getting him those that he wants. I didn't think it was true in DN's time. Not sure it's changed since then. Maybe Conte being a stronger personality is able to express himself better, especially after winning the scudetto, but I genuinely wonder how this works.
 

JuveJay

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I don't remember at any point in that season, Del Neri asking for Quag or Dinatale and Borriello, both of whom rejected us. In fact, I do remember him pairing Diego and Trez and being happy with it, even saying something to the effect of Diego not being a wide player but offering the team something extra in attack. So don't know what you're talking about.
He means Krasic.
 

JuveJay

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I wonder how it works at Juve though. It would perhaps be more optimal if the coach did have a say, as some people here claim Conte does and that's why Beppe is only getting him those that he wants. I didn't think it was true in DN's time. Not sure it's changed since then. Maybe Conte being a stronger personality is able to express himself better, especially after winning the scudetto, but I genuinely wonder how this works.
It seems unlikely that Delneri and Marotta didn't work together on transfers, considering their relationship. Ultimately Marotta has the say beyond Delneri, but the Diego deal seemed like a straight swap with Krasic both financially and tactically.

Likewise Elia, I believe he came in when it was presumed we would play 4-2-4, but then it went to a settled 4-3-3 and then 3-5-2, which he is useless in.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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This poll is confusing, as we should base our judgements after next Summer's mercato.

If he fails to land a very good striker this term, then I'm afraid his work as a Sporting Director is done. If he does, then extend his contract by all means. He has built a very strong group here so far.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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So he should just stop trying to get world class strikers, right.

Isla is coming off the worst injury you can get in the game of football, he'll have to prove himself next season. This season is a write off.
No, but he certainly shouldn't go from looking at a world class striker to owning a Bendtner. I just dont see how that works, so please don't justify it. Hate on me if you like, but like you credit the man, you have to accept he is error prone, and makes questionable calls.

So? Elia came drom another league, was really young, and dindt evem know italian. How come you cant grant him that? Factors that should've been considered before he was even bought on the last day of the mercato. Clearly, another panic buy. I refuse to believe Elia flunked, because he hardly ever got the opportunity here. Justify Isla's injury, but if Elia flunked then Isla flunked. It's as simple as that.
 

MikeM

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When push comes to shove, I bet all the people who voted NO would be hesitant to actually let Marotta go and hire someone else because deep down they know he has won back to back scudetti and put us right back on top of Italian soccer and into the top 10 teams in the universe.
 

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