Giuseppe Marotta (71 Viewers)

[AFL_ITALIA]

People should consider a few things about italians complaining about fixtures.

1) English players tend to be build more athletic, and are less technical in general, they got better natural conditions where italians, especially the creative players, are thinner artists. They lack that condition.

2) English teams dont really got a problem with wages. They have much larger squads, with more dept. As shown in the europaleague, when an italian team try's to rotate, they generally get shafted. If they play their full team in europe, they get shafted in the serie a. Napoli this and last season is a good example of both.

3) The players that can handle multiple fixtures better in serie a teams, tend to be the very physical defensive italians, or foreign players. Our defence,asamoah,licht dont really bother about fixtures. others do.
The effect of dept is very clear in our midfield. Who was the best midfielder from us against roma ? Pogba. Despite his massive potential he's currently below the MVP's level, but he was rested and clearly better. That is dept right there.

4) What is said about english players, can also be said about germans. Spanish teams on the other hand, play a much less physically demanding football, and also tend to have more dept then us.

5) Last season, despite a less talented team as currently, this problem rarely occurred. Yeah, we were in just 1 competition.


6) The FIGC should promote the teams that bring italy forward in europe. It increases serie a's profile, wich translate into more income, and better player development due to higher quality teammates.
So yeah, they should pretty much protect the teams that play in europe, and be alot more lenient to those teams asking to move a game to a later or earlyer date.

7) And lastly, all 3 competitions above us, do exactly that. moving games to monday and fryday happen all the time in la liga, bundesliga and epl.


Conte and marotta have full right to complain the lack of backing, especially compared to the 3 league's above us.

I don't believe this. Lazio and Napoli don't have many Italians in their starting XI, at least compared to us.

Unless you were speaking in terms of just players in the leagues in general, in which case forget I said this .

 

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[Red]

People should consider a few things about italians complaining about fixtures.

4) What is said about english players, can also be said about germans. Spanish teams on the other hand, play a much less physically demanding football, and also tend to have more dept then us.

So, why have BVB been unable to be competitive in the league and the CL in the same season?

7) And lastly, all 3 competitions above us, do exactly that. moving games to monday and fryday happen all the time in la liga, bundesliga and epl.

EPL games aren't played on a Friday and the Monday night ones are done for the benefit of TV rather than the teams in Europe.

In the case of the most recent Monday night EPL game, it actually disadvantaged a team in Europe, as Liverpool had less time to prepare for their game against Zenit than they'd have had playing a normal weekend game.

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There are two real differences causing the issues:

1. There are sides in other countries with greater depth than any sides in Italy have just now; and

2. Serie A is very competitive just now. There are very few easy games where you can expect to rest several players and win or exepct to play a strong side and win without getting out of second gear.

If you look at Man Utd, they wouldn't bat an eyelid at resting almost their entire team at home against virtually the whole bottom half of the league. They have squad depth and they are in a league where there are a bunch of teams who won't really be an obstacle to them.

 

[ALC]

I will counter your BVB example with Bayern. Doing well in both CL and the league. And if you say it's the depth, tough shit. If Juve wants to compete with the best, they have to get better depth. It's not like we're not spending money on bench players, we just buy shitty ones. Padoin and Giaccherini anyone? They're useless.

 

[Zacheryah]

1. There are sides in other countries with greater depth than any sides in Italy have just now; and

2. Serie A is very competitive just now. There are very few easy games where you can expect to rest several players and win or exepct to play a strong side and win without getting out of second gear.

If you look at Man Utd, they wouldn't bat an eyelid at resting almost their entire team at home against virtually the whole bottom half of the league. They have squad depth and they are in a league where there are a bunch of teams who won't really be an obstacle to them.

Well i agree on the dept offcourse, as i mentionned before.

For the second, i allways wonder why the epl is "the greatest league". Most of the best 3 players in a position, dont play there, and its nowere near as competitive as serie a, wich is by far the most competitive league in the world. (amongst itself)

Also the football they play is boring as fuck. Germany, spain and france of fancy football, or italy for tactical masterpieces imo, and the occasional flash of genious

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I will counter your BVB example with Bayern. Doing well in both CL and the league. And if you say it's the depth, tough shit. If Juve wants to compete with the best, they have to get better depth. It's not like we're not spending money on bench players, we just buy shitty ones. Padoin and Giaccherini anyone? They're useless.

Wow, relax there. Borussia has less dept then us, not a single of their keyplayers have a standin as good as caceres or pogba.

Bayeren ? comparing 360+mil turnover bayern to 197 turnover juventus(what we were before mercato) ? they nearly got double our income, and have much better tax on wages.

So as a result, bayeren, and most of the 250+mil teams, got a shitload of dept, where we are very limited cause cannot pay their wages.

 

[ALC]

so i guess we can't complain about playing too much then. top teams can handle it, if we can't then we're not one.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

People should consider a few things about italians complaining about fixtures.

1) English players tend to be build more athletic, and are less technical in general, they got better natural conditions where italians, especially the creative players, are thinner artists. They lack that condition.

2) English teams dont really got a problem with wages. They have much larger squads, with more dept. As shown in the europaleague, when an italian team try's to rotate, they generally get shafted. If they play their full team in europe, they get shafted in the serie a. Napoli this and last season is a good example of both.

3) The players that can handle multiple fixtures better in serie a teams, tend to be the very physical defensive italians, or foreign players. Our defence,asamoah,licht dont really bother about fixtures. others do.
The effect of dept is very clear in our midfield. Who was the best midfielder from us against roma ? Pogba. Despite his massive potential he's currently below the MVP's level, but he was rested and clearly better. That is dept right there.

4) What is said about english players, can also be said about germans. Spanish teams on the other hand, play a much less physically demanding football, and also tend to have more dept then us.

5) Last season, despite a less talented team as currently, this problem rarely occurred. Yeah, we were in just 1 competition.


6) The FIGC should promote the teams that bring italy forward in europe. It increases serie a's profile, wich translate into more income, and better player development due to higher quality teammates.
So yeah, they should pretty much protect the teams that play in europe, and be alot more lenient to those teams asking to move a game to a later or earlyer date.

7) And lastly, all 3 competitions above us, do exactly that. moving games to monday and fryday happen all the time in la liga, bundesliga and epl.


Conte and marotta have full right to complain the lack of backing, especially compared to the 3 league's above us.

Wow, Zach. You certainly have a plaster for EVERY wound.

 

[Red]

I will counter your BVB example with Bayern. Doing well in both CL and the league. And if you say it's the depth, tough shit. If Juve wants to compete with the best, they have to get better depth. It's not like we're not spending money on bench players, we just buy shitty ones. Padoin and Giaccherini anyone? They're useless.

Which of Bayern's or Man Utd's good backup would you have liked Juve to sign instead of Padoin or Peluso?

Man Utd started the best part of £100m worth of players tonight who didn't feature against Real Madrid in midweek.

Juve are still at a very early stage of building a team/squad compared to the likes of Bayern and Man Utd, so have barely assembled a strong first XI and can hardly be expected to have a complete squad at this point.

 

[Hist]

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[Cronios]

People should consider a few things about italians complaining about fixtures.

1) English players tend to be build more athletic, and are less technical in general, they got better natural conditions where italians, especially the creative players, are thinner artists. They lack that condition.

2) English teams dont really got a problem with wages. They have much larger squads, with more dept. As shown in the europaleague, when an italian team try's to rotate, they generally get shafted. If they play their full team in europe, they get shafted in the serie a. Napoli this and last season is a good example of both.

3) The players that can handle multiple fixtures better in serie a teams, tend to be the very physical defensive italians, or foreign players. Our defence,asamoah,licht dont really bother about fixtures. others do.
The effect of dept is very clear in our midfield. Who was the best midfielder from us against roma ? Pogba. Despite his massive potential he's currently below the MVP's level, but he was rested and clearly better. That is dept right there.

4) What is said about english players, can also be said about germans. Spanish teams on the other hand, play a much less physically demanding football, and also tend to have more dept then us.

5) Last season, despite a less talented team as currently, this problem rarely occurred. Yeah, we were in just 1 competition.


6) The FIGC should promote the teams that bring italy forward in europe. It increases serie a's profile, wich translate into more income, and better player development due to higher quality teammates.
So yeah, they should pretty much protect the teams that play in europe, and be alot more lenient to those teams asking to move a game to a later or earlyer date.

7) And lastly, all 3 competitions above us, do exactly that. moving games to monday and fryday happen all the time in la liga, bundesliga and epl.


Conte and marotta have full right to complain the lack of backing, especially compared to the 3 league's above us.

Well thought, well put!

 

[Ahmed]

it's a miracle Italian players don't break in half come the end of a league season which may be followed by international tournaments.

 

[Salvatore]

It isn't a Serie A problem, it's a football problem.

 

[Gagi]

 

[Jem83]

Gagi

 

[Gian]

So did his contract get renewed? He has a contract until 06-2013 right?

 

[tyouto]

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

It could be vice versa with 20 worthless players and #FCKMRTT on it.

And wtf Matri, Vucinic and Pepe? Trolling?

 

[Gian]

They left out Bonucci.

 

[Klin]

They left out Bonucci.

Fuck the guy who created it.

 

[Bianconero81]

No Buffon, Chiellini, Bonucci, or Marchisio

Epic fail