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always with the conte argument...he still built the best squad in serie a. we have limited resurces no matter what you think. last year we had about 100m in wages, city about 200m. so there really IS a HUGE difference in what we can offer in WAGES to a top player. Also on transfer fees we never top the list, even if we have spent alot of money.
why not the conte argument? its true

and for the 34389th time rvp and aguero were sold expensive after loooooooooong negotiations, we could have wrapped up the deal earlier for cheaper..even dzeko but marotta waited and let it go
 

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why not the conte argument? its true

and for the 34389th time rvp and aguero were sold expensive after loooooooooong negotiations, we could have wrapped up the deal earlier for cheaper..even dzeko but marotta waited and let it go
Dzeko above all, Marotta waited until the FIGC fucked him over with a new rule.
 

JCK

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Fortunately I am extremely stubborn, because you are almost unbearable right now.
I become unbearable when I point out what Marotta does.

I'm not sugar coating anything.

Not sure why you think I rate Marotta so highly either.
I don't know why you rate Marotta highly either, it baffles me.

When one says that Pazzini is coming at the expense of Quagliarella it is sugar coating because any other way stinks of shit. The exchange is only a turd with a nice thick cover of sugar.
 

fredrik

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Yes we are short of options if you mean options on who to buy because day after day Marotta pulls out of deals for reasons we have mentioned hundreds of times before.

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Posters like fredrik are what cause frustration the transfer market is as good as 31st of August for me, it is quite obvious how we will end it.
:lol: sorry for having a different opinion

but its not like i dont want a better forward than pazzini. you should try to be more positive towards the chances of landing a better striker. we are oviously trying to get one!

atleast we didnt sign borriello, we didnt sell our two best players and we are not offloading everyone like certain clubs;)
 
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Dzeko above all, Marotta waited until the FIGC $#@!ed him over with a new rule.
and people forget dzeko after marotta fucked up with aguero, forget about aguero when we fucked up with rvp/jo/someone else and then the argument that we build a title winning team...how many times did the same guys yell and cry for a WC striker in almost every just match watching us waste countless chances? how close was the finish? one match better for milan and it was a 2nd place finish

dzeko and aguero, these guy were ours to lose and marotta lost it
 

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:lol: sorry for having a different opinion

but its not like i dont want a better forward than pazzini. you should try to be more positive towards the chances of landing a better striker. we are oviously trying to get one!

atleast we didnt sign borriello, we didnt sell our two best players and we are not offloading everyone like certain clubs;)
And I am not saying that what he has done so far is not good except that he will ruin everything by closing the summer with a Pazzini move. How can I be more positive about a better striker when all the signs, even Marotta himself, indicated that nothing better than Pazzini is to be expected?

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and people forget dzeko after marotta fucked up with aguero, forget about aguero when we fucked up with rvp/jo/someone else and then the argument that we build a title winning team...how many times did the same guys yell and cry for a WC striker in almost every just match watching us waste countless chances? how close was the finish? one match better for milan and it was a 2nd place finish

dzeko and aguero, these guy were ours to lose and marotta lost it
I know and then comes the Conte wanted this and Conte didn't want that. Last season it was all forgotten with the title, but will it happen every season?
 
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:lol: sorry for having a different opinion

but its not like i dont want a better forward than pazzini. you should try to be more positive towards the chances of landing a better striker. we are oviously trying to get one!

atleast we didnt sign borriello, we didnt sell our two best players and we are not offloading everyone like certain clubs;)
our chances of signing a good striker? and pazzini is out chance? you make us sound like palermo or sampdoria
 

fredrik

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why not the conte argument? its true

and for the 34389th time rvp and aguero were sold expensive after loooooooooong negotiations, we could have wrapped up the deal earlier for cheaper..even dzeko but marotta waited and let it go
no we couldnt have, bc either the clubs wanted more money or the players did. like any reasonable club/player they waited and took the best offer. your view of how the market works doesnt make sense at all.
do you mean we should have paid the 30m for rvp like arsenal wanted? bc thats just idiotic
 
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no we couldnt have, bc either the clubs wanted more money or the players did. like any reasonable club/player they waited and took the best offer. your view of how the market works doesnt make sense at all.
do you mean we should have paid the 30m for rvp like arsenal wanted? bc thats just idiotic
whats idiotic is you think i wanted us to pay 30 m for rvp and that is something ive never mentioned, no one is jumping on marotta for missing the rvp train. it has all got to do with missing out on aguero and dzeko who were a few millions away and penny pinching poker eye lazy ass marotta missed them so easy it almost looked deliberate
 

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our chances of signing a good striker? and pazzini is out chance? you make us sound like palermo or sampdoria
so the players we buy makes you think we are either of those clubs? absurd!

the market for top strikers is very limited and this year also slow. we are trying for players, but paying 24m for a player on last year of contract, inj. prone and not familiar to italy, doesnt make sense. italy is also struggling to attract the very best, if you havent noticed?!

pazzini is not our only chance, but exchanging him for quag makes perfect sense. imo there is a very good chance we get someone better, but if not we still have the best team in serie a, by far.
 

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so the players we buy makes you think we are either of those clubs? absurd!

the market for top strikers is very limited and this year also slow. we are trying for players, but paying 24m for a player on last year of contract, inj. prone and not familiar to italy, doesnt make sense. italy is also struggling to attract the very best, if you havent noticed?!

pazzini is not our only chance, but exchanging him for quag makes perfect sense. imo there is a very good chance we get someone better, but if not we still have the best team in serie a, by far.
Which better player we have a very good chance at getting?
 

fredrik

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whats idiotic is you think i wanted us to pay 30 m for rvp and that is something ive never mentioned, no one is jumping on marotta for missing the rvp train. it has all got to do with missing out on aguero and dzeko who were a few millions away and penny pinching poker eye lazy ass marotta missed them so easy it almost looked deliberate
:lol: you where jumping on marrota for missing the rvp train. if you really think that aguero and dzeko where only a few millions away, you must be stupied
 

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I think reality is somewhere between the arguments. On one hand, suggesting that big moves are at all easy is ludicrous. As if one of us here has the slightest clue about the details involved. FM does not count, nor does apparent probability or press speculation.

On the other hand we do know that several times we have entered into at least dialogue for a top striker with Marotta, and every time (so far) we have not ended up with one. We'll know for sure by August 31st whether this is a chronic problem, because although we still have unfavourable circumstances (money, league) we are in a much better position than last season.
 
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the market for top strikers is very limited and this year also slow. we are trying for players, but paying 24m for a player on last year of contract, inj. prone and not familiar to italy, doesnt make sense. italy is also struggling to attract the very best, if you havent noticed?!

pazzini is not our only chance, but exchanging him for quag makes perfect sense. imo there is a very good chance we get someone better, but if not we still have the best team in serie a, by far.
sure we have to best team in serie a, we had last year to and a horrible milan ran us so bloody close. are we just playing in serie a this year btw? do you have no CL ambition?

what was the primary objective of offloading quag anyway? wage bill? and getting inter's dead wood while giving them a good striker and his swag because pazzini will play for free?

stop being hung on rvp and what he got sold for finally, no one is talking about that but you and a few marotta fanboys...

dont sign players not familiar to italy? :howler: seriously? marotta should no go after injury prone players? aqua? pirlo? rossi? rvp ?jojo? higuain?

so the players we buy makes you think we are either of those clubs? absurd!
:sergio:
 

fredrik

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Which better player we have a very good chance at getting?
llorente, jovetic, ramirez sounds possible to me. but i dont know who we are really going for.

which strikers will be available depends on who moves where, so its not possible to say really who we might have a chance on landing. but the chances are very good:lol:
 

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